--- On Thu, 8/6/09, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org
wrote:
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:41:12 -0500
> From: Neal Hogan
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was:
> upgrade 7.2
> overwrites partitions)
> To: Mark Stapper
> inspired by a guy (the OP) who has been using fBSD for many
>> years
>> (over 5 . . . I can't remember the exact number).
>>
>
> I have been struggling to use FreeBSD for a shorter amount of time (for a
> fileserver). I was originally attracted to OpenBSD "for security." However,
> OpenBSD user
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Neal Hogan wrote:
> > So, this long story boils down to the following
> question:
> >
> > What is that best way to use the handbook and related
> documentation (like man-pages)?
> >
>
> What?!
>
> Ummm . . . read them. I'm not trying to be too big of a
> dick, but your
>
>> How do you expect to get comfortable w/out "playing
>> around," other
>> than, I guess (a'la above) reading the documentation?
>>
>
> Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before playing
> around on my "workstation" that would be a separate computer.
>
> I want to build myse
James Phillips wrote:
> Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before playing
> around on my "workstation" that would be a separate computer.
>
> I want to build myself a "sand-box" so I don't have to worry about breaking
> stuff that is unrelated.
>
> Another way of asking the
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:41 -0700 (PDT), James Phillips
wrote:
> I was also attracted to BSD because I knew from my brief stint at
> university that the BSD man-pages were actually kept up to date.
As a developer, documentation is VERY important to me. That's why
I love FreeBSD, because the OS a
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:41:40 -0700 (PDT), James Phillips
wrote:
> Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before
> playing around on my "workstation" that would be a separate
> computer.
The default installation of FreeBSD covers most cases.
> I want to build myself a "sand-b
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:51 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> Windows experience won't help much - mainly due to the fact Windows
> forces the users (and admins) to a completely different way of thinking
> than FreeBSD.
That's true. It's even hard to communicate with "'Windows' admins"
because of
> Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy running for
> a lifetime. :-)
Amen.
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> Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy running for
> a lifetime. :-)
[/snip]
It's nice to be able to go on vacation, without worrying about the
servers back home craping out :)
-Modulok-
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On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:25:38PM -0600, Modulok wrote:
> [snip]
> > Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy running for
> > a lifetime. :-)
> [/snip]
>
> It's nice to be able to go on vacation, without worrying about the
> servers back home craping out :)
>
> -Modulok-
I'm obviously getting more and more stupid.
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:16 +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> To conform with the growisofs manual, you could symlink it to /dev/dvd
> using the setting
>
> linkacd0cdrom
>
> in /etc/devfs.conf.
Wrong line copies. Should be:
link
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:25:38 -0600, Modulok wrote:
> It's nice to be able to go on vacation, without worrying about the
> servers back home craping out :)
Vacation? Weekend! :-)
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Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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-list archives?
This list is probably best suited to very specific
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Some the stuff I mentioned has little to do with BSD.
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Polytropon
wrote:
> From: Polytropon
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman)
(was: > upgrade 7.2
> To: "James Ph
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org
wrote:
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:16 +0200
> From: Polytropon
> On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:51 +0300, Manolis Kiagias
> wrote:
> > Windows experience won't help much - mainly due to the
> fact Windows
> > forces the us
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:56:41PM -0700, James Phillips wrote:
>
> I was also attracted to BSD because I knew from my brief stint at
> university that the BSD man-pages were actually kept up to date. Not
> like the GNU system where man pages say stupid things like: "The full
> documentation for d
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> Yeah, I hate that stuff. The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft
> of the open source community, that way.
Be happy that there at least is an info manual. In many cases, there
is NO local documentation, neither in man or info format.
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org
wrote:
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600
> From: Chad Perrin
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was:
> > upgrade 7.2
>
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:56:41PM -0
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > Yeah, I hate that stuff. The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft
> > of the open source community, that way.
>
> Be happy that there at least is an info manual. In many c
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 10:09:30PM -0700, James Phillips wrote:
>
> Okay, after reading this, I used the "WayBack Machine" to review the
> printing section of the April 17, 2006 version of the Handbook.
>
> I was not able to find anything that is writing a print-driver per-se.
> In the "Advanced"
On Sun 09 Aug 2009 at 06:52:31 PDT Chad Perrin wrote:
An info page is almost as bad as nothing, as far as I'm concerned. The
GNU project has this bizarre idea that everybody in the world should use
everything it produces and *nothing else*, no matter how painful it all
is to use -- and assumes
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 07:52:31AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > > Yeah, I hate that stuff. The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft
> > > of the open source community, th
>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:52:31 -0600,
>> Chad Perrin said:
C> An info page is almost as bad as nothing, as far as I'm concerned.
Yup. However, the GNU folks do provide something for the rest of us;
help2man accepts a GNU program name, runs it with the --help and
--version arguments, a
>
>
> Many people's only familiarity with computers in general will be from a
> Windows centric perspective. Somehow there is a tendency to believe that
> inserting a CD, booting, and then proceeding to click "OK" in a dialog box a
> few dozen times makes them some kind of expert when they succe
On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote:
>
> In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement
> in the FreeBSD corner.
> What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
> FreeBSD.
[snip]
> To achieve this, there are two things that should b
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote:
>>
>> In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement
>> in the FreeBSD corner.
>> What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
>> FreeBS
> In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement
> in the FreeBSD corner.
> What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
> FreeBSD.
> I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home
> on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer
[snip]
> In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement
> in the FreeBSD corner.
> What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use
> FreeBSD.
> I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home
> on a box running FreeBSD, but a co
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:56:59 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> PC-BSD is FreeBSD, pre-packaged with a usable desktop and its own simplified
> package manager.
If you're talking about PBI, that's what the "average user" expects:
You open a web browser (d'oh), search for what you think will be the
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