On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:32:59AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 02:14:34AM +0100, cpghost wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:09:38PM +, David Gerard wrote:
> > > Danial Thom wrote:
> > >
> > > > I vote for
> > > > "Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a
> > > >
32 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Sasa Stupar; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
>
>LOL. Trying to dig ditches with ice cream sticks
>boys?
>
>--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 02:14:34AM +0100, cpghost wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:09:38PM +, David Gerard wrote:
> > Danial Thom wrote:
> >
> > > I vote for
> > > "Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a
> > > commentary on the destruction of the (formally)
> > > world's best operating
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 11:25, Loren M. Lang wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 07:38:12AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote:
> > Because those of us with real jobs are required
> > to do so.
> >
> > Kris doesn't just not see my point. If you can't
> > see that then you can't be reasoned with either.
>
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 07:38:12AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote:
> Because those of us with real jobs are required
> to do so.
>
> Kris doesn't just not see my point. If you can't
> see that then you can't be reasoned with either.
>
> --- Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hmm, a TOP poster as well.
-
> >From: Sasa Stupar
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 12:00 AM
> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt;
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections?
> (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
> >Song)
> >
> >
> >
RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
>
>It doesn't work on winxp. I am going to build another machine
>with FreeBSD
>5.4 and I'll try it then and let you know the results.
>
>Sasa
>
>--On 18. december 2005 14:02 -0800 Ted Mittelst
Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
Song)
Nothing. From the GUI view it is at 0% of utilisation.
Sasa
--On 18. december 2005 3:51 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
what does the CPU of the rou
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>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:07 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
>
>Nothing. From the GUI view it is at 0% of utilisation.
>
>Sasa
alf Of Sasa Stupar
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:00 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
Song)
--On 18. december 2005 2:32 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
-Original Messa
lling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
>
>
>
>--On 18. december 2005 2:32 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:
ct: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
Theme Song)
--On 18. december 2005 1:33 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:25 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt; [EMAIL PROT
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sasa Stupar
>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 2:21 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
>Theme S
ubject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
Theme Song)
--On 16. december 2005 3:36 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:34 AM
To: Ted Mittelst
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom
>Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:36 AM
>To: Sasa Stupar; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:25 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Drew Tomlinson
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: F
>-Original Message-
>From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:42 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
>
>
&
14, 2005 11:14
> AM
> >>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson
> >>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps
> Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
> >>>> Song)
> >>>>
> >>>
sd.org
Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
Theme Song)
Ted
Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and without polling:
**
Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001
TCP window size
>-Original Message-
>From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:34 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Drew Tomlinson
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: F
TECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:14 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
Song)
Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due to
the
hardware doing controlled interrupts, then why
does
th
ebsd.org
> >Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections?
> (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
> >Song)
> >
>
> >> Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due
> to
> >> the
> >> hardware doing controlled interrupts, then
> why
> >> does
&g
reebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
Song)
Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due to
the
hardware doing controlled interrupts, then why
does
the fxp driver even let you set it as an
option?
And why have many people who have enabled
olling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
Song)
Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due to
the
hardware doing controlled interrupts, then why
does
the fxp driver even let you set it as an
option?
And why have many people who have enabled it on
fxp seen an improvement?
They h
>-Original Message-
>From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:14 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
I also use polling on my Intel Pro/100S and I get inscrease of almoast 100%
in speed. OK, My machine is Celeron 433 with 256 MB RAM and it is used as
router. With iperf between DMZ and LAN with polling enabled I reach speed
of 90 Mbit and without polling I can get speed only about 58 Mbit.
So f
d-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections?
> (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
> >Song)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote, On 12/13/2005 12
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom
>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:07 AM
>To: Drew Tomlinson
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>
100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
So
>specifically WHAT it is doesn't change my claim
>the FreeBSD 5.x and 6.x suck, at least relative
>to what you started with. If you take something
>and make it worse, and seem to have no ability to
>figure out WHY,
Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
>
>Ted Mittelstaedt wrote, On 12/13/2005 12:44 AM:
>
>>
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:3
--- Cezar Fistik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just a remark. I'm using an "Intel PRO/1000 MT
> Dual Port Gigabit Copper
> CAT5 Server PCI express Adapter" in a box
> serving as router. Pumping 150Mbps
> through it with 99% idle CPU and 1% interrupts,
> polling enabled. It's
> a litle
> >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> >>Cc: Michael Vince; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
> >>Kris Kennaway
> >>Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections?
> (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song)
> >>
> >>
> >>On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM
L PROTECTED];
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
> >Kris Kennaway
> >Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections?
> (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
> >Song)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
Hello,
Just a remark. I'm using an "Intel PRO/1000 MT Dual Port Gigabit Copper
CAT5 Server PCI express Adapter" in a box serving as router. Pumping 150Mbps
through it with 99% idle CPU and 1% interrupts, polling enabled. It's
a litle bit expensive, but it does its job perfectly.
--
Best regards
mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song)
On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Michael,
Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is claiming exists:
it takes a certain amount of time to get the packet clocked in
from the network into the ethernet receiver. Th
Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme
>Song)
>
>
>
>
>--- Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>> On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>
> >Danial is claiming the slowness is in the main
> >ram section of
> >things, not in th
>-Original Message-
>From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:30 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Michael Vince; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
>Kris Kennaway
>Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was R
--- Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> >Michael,
> >
> > Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is
> claiming exists:
> >
> >it takes a certain amount of time to get the
> packet clocked in
> >from the network into the ethernet recei
On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Michael,
Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is claiming exists:
it takes a certain amount of time to get the packet clocked in
from the network into the ethernet receiver. This is hardware
dependent and cannot be changed.
It takes a certai
CTED] Behalf Of Michael Vince
>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:26 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Kris Kennaway
>Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song
>
>
>What about just turning on Polling?
>I have polling turned out for a router and all I get i
What about just turning on Polling?
I have polling turned out for a router and all I get is gigabit performance.
I have tested it with a wire variety of tests from basic fetch tests
from a FreeBSD client box via a FreeBSD router (with polling) to
another FreeBSD box and all I got was gigabit pe
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris
>Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 6:49 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Kris Kennaway
>Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song
>
>
>Danial Thom wrote
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
>Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:13 PM
>To: Danial Thom
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Kris Kennaway
>Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song
>
>
>On Sun, De
Chris wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
>>But of course, Denial tells us that none of this means anything about
>>FreeBSD performance and scalability, because it doesn't help him with
>>the only thing he cares about, which is to sell systems that bridge
>>high-speed networks.
>>
>>Kris
>>
>>
>
>
>
Kris Kennaway wrote:
> But of course, Denial tells us that none of this means anything about
> FreeBSD performance and scalability, because it doesn't help him with
> the only thing he cares about, which is to sell systems that bridge
> high-speed networks.
>
> Kris
>
>
Observation: His name -
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 06:33:49AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote:
> > > But thats not even the point. The point is that the purpose of
> > > tearing apart 4.x was to go MP, and MP
> > > performance is dismill across the board.
> > This statement is simply false. It's actually
> > quite funny to read
--- David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
>
> > developers that is lost. Their "theory" on
> how to
> > build a better mousetrap for MP is completely
> > wrong, and now they're going to try something
> > else, using the entire FreeBSD community as
> > guinea pigs. First 5
Danial Thom wrote:
>>>Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of
>>>developers that is lost. Their "theory" on
>>
>>how to
>>
>>>build a better mousetrap for MP is completely
>>>wrong, and now they're going to try something
>>>else, using the entire FreeBSD community as
>>>guinea pigs. First 5.4 w
Because those of us with real jobs are required
to do so.
Kris doesn't just not see my point. If you can't
see that then you can't be reasoned with either.
--- Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
>
> > Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of
> > developers that is lost. Th
Danial Thom wrote:
> Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of
> developers that is lost. Their "theory" on how to
> build a better mousetrap for MP is completely
> wrong, and now they're going to try something
> else, using the entire FreeBSD community as
> guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer
Danial Thom wrote:
> developers that is lost. Their "theory" on how to
> build a better mousetrap for MP is completely
> wrong, and now they're going to try something
> else, using the entire FreeBSD community as
> guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then 6.0.
> Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too.
--- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 01:14:18PM -0800,
> Danial Thom wrote:
>
> > Well thats just hogwash Kris. Pure bridging
> > performance is a measure of the efficiency of
> the
> > kernel to do rote tasks like respond to
> > interrupts, and the latencies i
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song
>
>
>Hope this saves somebody a few keystrokes:
>
>* VI *
>
>#!/bin/sh
>
># "themesong" ... enables you to quickly create a singable
># ode to your favorite FreeBSD pet peeve
sung to 'You are my Sunshine'
and humbly submitted as a candidate in the
soon-to-be-announced FreeBSD Theme Song Contest
(but definitely not in any code competitions...)
'$1' is my bikeshed, my only bikeshed
'$1' makes me happy to gritch an
xit 0;;
# let the GNU people gritch too; but they won't like this part
--copyright)
cat "/COPYRIGHT"
exit 0;;
esac
if [ "$1" ]; then
echo "
THE BIKESHED SONG
sung to 'You are my Sunshine'
and hum
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:09:38PM +, David Gerard wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
>
> > I vote for
> > "Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a
> > commentary on the destruction of the (formally)
> > world's best operating system.
>
> So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. Th
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:34:23PM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> >But anyway, FreeBSD 6.0 is hugely superior to 5.4 and 4.11 in
> >filesystem performance. I have been measuring this carefully for the
> >past couple of months and hope to have the paper out soon.
>
> For instance in 5.4 the fastest
On Dec 10, 2005, at 2:16 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:
But anyway, FreeBSD 6.0 is hugely superior to 5.4 and 4.11 in
filesystem performance. I have been measuring this carefully for the
past couple of months and hope to have the paper out soon.
For instance in 5.4 the fastest I could write to my
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 01:14:18PM -0800, Danial Thom wrote:
> Well thats just hogwash Kris. Pure bridging
> performance is a measure of the efficiency of the
> kernel to do rote tasks like respond to
> interrupts, and the latencies in performing those
> tasks. Its the best way, IMO, to exercise a
--- Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 06:00:42PM +, David
> Gerard wrote:
> > Danial Thom wrote:
> > > --- David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >>Danial Thom wrote:
> >
> > >>>I vote for
> > >>>"Look what they've done to my song, Ma" -
> a
> > >>>com
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 09:02:40PM +, David Gerard wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
> > The thing you have to remember about Denial is that the ONLY THING he
> > cares about in an OS is how fast it can route network packets. The
> > major improvements in other areas of FreeBSD are of absolutel
Kris Kennaway wrote:
> The thing you have to remember about Denial is that the ONLY THING he
> cares about in an OS is how fast it can route network packets. The
> major improvements in other areas of FreeBSD are of absolutely no
> interest to him, therefore the whole thing is a waste of time.
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 06:00:42PM +, David Gerard wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
> > --- David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Danial Thom wrote:
>
> >>>I vote for
> >>>"Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a
> >>>commentary on the destruction of the (formally)
> >>>world's best operat
Danial Thom wrote:
> --- David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Danial Thom wrote:
>>>I vote for
>>>"Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a
>>>commentary on the destruction of the (formally)
>>>world's best operating system.
>>So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better
>>than 5.x. The m
On Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:17:07 AM
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Wrote these words of wisdom:
> root wrote:
> > We are promoting a new punk rock band the is being developed as I write
> > this email. We are looking for ways to get the
I was referring to 4.x vs 5.x+ of course
--- David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
>
> > I vote for
> > "Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a
> > commentary on the destruction of the
> (formally)
> > world's best operating system.
>
>
> So far I'm finding 6.x a he
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:09:38 +
David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
>
> > I vote for
> > "Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a
> > commentary on the destruction of the (formally)
> > world's best operating system.
>
>
I would go for an alteration of "Ballad of
Danial Thom wrote:
> I vote for
> "Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a
> commentary on the destruction of the (formally)
> world's best operating system.
So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel
just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... y
I vote for
"Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a
commentary on the destruction of the (formally)
world's best operating system.
--- Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> root wrote:
> > We are promoting a new punk rock band the is
> being developed as I write this email. We are
> looking for
root wrote:
> We are promoting a new punk rock band the is being developed as I write this
> email. We are looking for ways to get the bands name knowing to more. As far
> as I know Freebsd doesn't have a theme song?
>
> If intrested you could listen to some live recordings of the band at
> h
We are promoting a new punk rock band the is being developed as I write this
email. We are looking for ways to get the bands name knowing to more. As far as
I know Freebsd doesn't have a theme song?
If intrested you could listen to some live recordings of the band at
http://www.skudpuppetz.co
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