Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:20:13 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com articulated: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: 2011/2/24 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Jerry wrote: Is FreeBSD now HAL free or is it still a requirement? I still have it

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Robert Huff
Jerry writes: GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not even distributing it. What is preventing FBSD from joining the party? Lack of someone willing, able, and available to do the work.

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, Jerry wrote: GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not even distributing it. What is preventing FBSD from joining the party? Lack of a udev specification, for a start:

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:38:14 -0500 From: Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Subject: Re: HAL's demise GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not even distributing it. What is preventing FBSD from joining

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Edwin L. Culp W.
2011/2/25 Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:38:14 -0500 From: Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Subject: Re: HAL's demise GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a couple of months back. Other distros are apparently not even

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:32:48 -0600 (CST), Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:38:14 -0500 From: Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Subject: Re: HAL's demise GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a couple of months

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:10:33 -0600, Edwin L. Culp W. edwinlc...@gmail.com wrote: So it appears that there isn't a major window manager that doesn't require hal, one way or the other. To be precise: There isn't a major DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT (as there are just the big three KDE, Gnome, Xfce -

HAL's demise

2011-02-24 Thread Jerry
Excerpt from freedesktop.org mailing list: quote Also, is going away is a bit of an understatement, it's really quite dead. GNOME switched over a year ago, KDE and XFCE finished the transition a couple of months back (see [1]). The major distros don't even install it by default any more, or at

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-24 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Jerry wrote: Is FreeBSD now HAL free or is it still a requirement? I still have it activated via /etc/rc.conf If it is not needed, I would be happy to remove the entry. It's not a requirement. You can build xorg-server without it, and there are other mechanisms

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-24 Thread Edwin L. Culp W.
2011/2/24 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Jerry wrote: Is FreeBSD now HAL free or is it still a requirement? I still have it activated via /etc/rc.conf If it is not needed, I would be happy to remove the entry. It's not a requirement.  You can build xorg-server without

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-24 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Edwin L. Culp W. edwinlc...@gmail.com wrote: Sounded like a good idea to me but ;) pkg_deinstall hal-0.5.14_12 ---  Deinstalling 'hal-0.5.14_12' pkg_delete: package 'hal-0.5.14_12' is required by these other packages That list is recursive - kdelibs4 depends

Re: HAL's demise

2011-02-24 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: 2011/2/24 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Jerry wrote: Is FreeBSD now HAL free or is it still a requirement? I still have it activated via /etc/rc.conf If it is not needed, I would be happy to remove the entry. It's not a