Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-09-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:50:00 Michiel Overtoom wrote: > I never understood the need for transparent windows. If you're working in > a window you want to concentrate on its contents, not on stuff that's > happening beneath it. It breaks the flow. I think it's indicative of the > ritalin-g

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-26 Thread Mike Jeays
On August 26, 2009 06:50:00 am Michiel Overtoom wrote: > On Friday 07 August 2009 16:12:03 Andrew Gould wrote: > > Is there an increase in usability/benefit to match the increase in > > resource consumption? > > As I see it, KDE4 fell in the Vista trap. I tried KDE4 and was showered > with eye c

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-26 Thread Michiel Overtoom
On Friday 07 August 2009 16:12:03 Andrew Gould wrote: > Is there an increase in usability/benefit to match the increase in > resource consumption? As I see it, KDE4 fell in the Vista trap. I tried KDE4 and was showered with eye candy effects, some of which couldn't even be disabled. Also, quit

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:23:20PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:33:38 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: > > i'd be interested in Paul's question. it may be that kde3 > > is sopping up wy to much disc space. only have 6.5g > > left > > KDE4 makes KDE3 look like Fluxb

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 19:26:20 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On August 6, 2009 9:29:30 PM -0500 Mel Flynn > > wrote: > > On Thursday 06 August 2009 15:21:14 Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go > >> about it? Do I need to completely unin

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, August 07, 2009 00:27:00 -0500 Kent Stewart wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 05:53:05 pm Paul Schmehl wrote: --On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehl > > wrote: >> Can someone who has already done this upgrade sug

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:53:05 -0500, Paul Schmehl a écrit : > I don't want to run KDE3 and KDE4 side by side. I want to migrate > from the former to the latter. K3B needs kde3 and amarok2 is not yet ready for KDE 4.3. I still use amarok 1.4. There is no problem to use kde3 and kde4. ___

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread RW
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:12:03 -0500 Andrew Gould wrote: > Is there an increase in usability/benefit to match the increase in > resource consumption? (Please forgive me - I know that's a horribly > subjective question.) IMO it's less usable in terms of ergonomics, and they are still talking abou

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread RW
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:53:05 -0500 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould > wrote: > > Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own > > directory folder. This may imply that KDE3 and KDE4 can coexist. > > > > As always, YMMV. > > I was looking

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Andrew Gould
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, RW wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:33:38 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: > >        i'd be interested in Paul's question.  it may be that kde3 >>       is sopping up wy to much disc space.  only have 6.5g >>       left > > KDE4 makes  KDE3 look like Fluxbox. > > I

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread RW
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:33:38 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: i'd be interested in Paul's question. it may be that kde3 > is sopping up wy to much disc space. only have 6.5g > left KDE4 makes KDE3 look like Fluxbox. I can't remember the exact figures on /usr, but I mainta

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread ltcddats
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500 Andrew Gould wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul > Schmehl wrote: > > Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way > > to go about it?  Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first?  Is > > there an upgrade path that's not fraught

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 06 Aug 2009 at 22:49:09 PDT Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:37:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: > Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory > folder. Terminology: the directory (is not a folde

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:37:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould > wrote: > > Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory > > folder. > > Terminology: the directory (is not a folder, and not a directory folder). > FreeBSD h

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 06 August 2009 05:53:05 pm Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould > > wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehl > > > > wrote: > >> Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go > >> about it?  Do I need to compl

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 6, 2009 9:29:30 PM -0500 Mel Flynn wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 15:21:14 Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with go

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Andrew Gould
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould > wrote: >> Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory >> folder. > > Terminology: the directory (is not a folder, and not a directory folder). > FreeBSD has directories

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 15:21:14 Paul Schmehl wrote: > Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go > about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an > upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? Wait a week I'd say. KDE 4.3.0 has hit the port

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it?  Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first?  Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with got

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: > Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory > folder. Terminology: the directory (is not a folder, and not a directory folder). FreeBSD has directories, not folders. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, German

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 11:21:14PM +, Paul Schmehl wrote: > Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go > about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an > upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? > i have a "me-too" here. i d

Re: KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Andrew Gould
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go > about it?  Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first?  Is there an > upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? > > -- > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst > Unl

KDE3 --> KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not th