Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2010-01-01 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:41:04PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi Roland, > > many thanks for the response!!! :-) You're welcome! > I waited until I had a test server setup and at least now I do.. > > In fact I think from my usage perspective FreeBSD is not that difficult > to understand!!

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2010-01-01 Thread Kaya Saman
Just to give a quick overview of what is being used currently: test# du -sch etc 1.7Metc 1.7Mtotal test# du -sch var 1.0Mvar 1.0Mtotal test# du -sch tmp 10Ktmp 10Ktotal test# du -sch usr 1.0Gusr 1.0Gtotal I think I could get away with 500MB for /var and /tmp and h

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2010-01-01 Thread Kaya Saman
Hi Roland, many thanks for the response!!! :-) I waited until I had a test server setup and at least now I do.. In fact I think from my usage perspective FreeBSD is not that difficult to understand!!! I now have a test machine setup which I built nano and Bind 9.6.1 from the ports colle

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Kaya Saman
Roland: If you can afford it, and if your laptop has a USB port, buy one of those external harddisks. Plenty of room for music and movies... Also great for backups! Can't afford :-( I have many disks like that where I bought really cool enclosures and the drives separately but currently am

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 09:06:09PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > lot's of different pieces of advice rolling in now! > > I guess what I will do as I have a small hard disk for what I want to do > which is to get rid of my music and few movies which are stored on my > laptop currently, is create sep

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:25:48PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:27:11PM +, Frank Shute wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:19:54PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > > > > > > Many thanks guys for all the advice :-) > > > It is really appreciated! > > > ... >

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Kaya Saman
Many thanks again for all suggestions! :-) [...] For my desktop, with around 450 ports installed, I have the following lay-out; Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1a484M 93M353M21%/ /dev/ad4s1g.eli373G168G175G49%/ho

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:37:25PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > [...] > > > >What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: > > > ># ln -s /usr/home /home > > > >ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from > >the root partition. > > > >So the only slices you need are /, /usr,

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:37:25PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > [...] > > > > What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: > > > > # ln -s /usr/home /home > > > > ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from > > the root partition. > > > > So the only slices you need are /, /

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:27:11PM +, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:19:54PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > > > > Many thanks guys for all the advice :-) > > It is really appreciated! > > ... > > > > I reckon the proposed disk usage spec from the FreeBSD hand book should >

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:37:25PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > > [...] > > > >What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: > > > ># ln -s /usr/home /home > > > >ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from > >the root partition. > > > >So the only slices you need are /, /usr

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Kaya Saman wrote: How I'd slice up the disk: 2GB for / 2GB for swap 2GB for /var 34GB for /usr Ah so BSD is slightly different from Linux in the fact that it needs to have /var and /usr filesystems separate?? It's not required, it's just nice to do if the disk space is

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Kaya Saman
[...] What is not unusual is to symlink /home e.g: # ln -s /usr/home /home ditto for /tmp. i.e you remove all the stuff that uses up space from the root partition. So the only slices you need are /, /usr, /var and swap. How I'd slice up the disk: 2GB for / 2GB for swap 2GB for /var 34GB fo

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:19:54PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > > > Many thanks guys for all the advice :-) > > It is really appreciated! > > Sorry haven't snipped more stuff into this mail but things are a bit > hectic here but what I will say is this; in a few hours once the BSD 8 > DVD IS

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Kaya Saman
Alex de Kruijff wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 05:04:52PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: Also if something goes wrong with the filesystem what are the tools to check the drive and repair errors as in Linux I use e2fsck followed by devic

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 05:04:52PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: > > Also if something goes wrong with the filesystem what are the tools to > > check the drive and repair errors as in Linux I use e2fsck followed by > > device ID. > > Example af

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 04:20:10PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Kaya Saman Running with no xorg.conf is fine, but you need to make sure dbus and hal > are started at boot. Follow the handbook for best results. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-29 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:49:31PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi guys, > I attempted an install of 7.2 stable on my laptop and subsequently > installed X11also. Now I didn't have any Xorg.conf file but each time I > tried to start X from the CLI using the normal startx command (read the > docume

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kaya Saman
[...] add dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf. That will most likely clear your problem. [...] I will give this a go soon :-) That's what I do with mine under FreeBSD, for both servers and workstations. Having both servers and workstations is cool as both of

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 16:23, Kaya Saman wrote: So, given what you've written below, you probably know more about this stuff than I do. Cool. I will echo the advice already given, however: add dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf. That will most likely clear your problem.

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Chuck Robey
Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Kaya Saman > wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> I attempted an install of 7.2 stable on my laptop and subsequently >> installed X11also. Now I didn't have any Xorg.conf file but each time I >> tried to start X from the CLI using the normal startx com

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kaya Saman
Kurt Buff wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 15:29, Kaya Saman wrote: I see I didn't completely read your original message. Indulge me a moment while I ramble here, and probably expose my ignorance... Xorg/X11 <> Gnome Gnome runs on Xorg: Xorg/Xfree runs X11 Xfree is now obsolete as Xor

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kaya Saman
The most common cause is that either hald (sysutils/hal) or dbus (devel/dbus) isn't running. Xorg needs them both to detect mouse and keyboard. Add dbus_enable="YES" and hald_enable="YES" to rc.conf to get them to start automatically. We'll see what the issue actually is - as I mentione

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 15:29, Kaya Saman wrote: > >> I can't speak to the rest, but WRT the GUI, I suspect you'll find it a >> lot easier if you install a Window Manager to handle a lot of this. I >> have found xfce4 to be a good one for me - gnome and kde were a bit >> much. Once I installed /us

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Monday 28 December 2009 22:49:31 Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi guys, > > first up I hope I am in the right place as my questions are of a generic > nature about FreeBSD as I consider myself a new user not having much > mileage with the OS as of yet! > > Secondly I just wanted to wish everyone a happy C

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kaya Saman
I can't speak to the rest, but WRT the GUI, I suspect you'll find it a lot easier if you install a Window Manager to handle a lot of this. I have found xfce4 to be a good one for me - gnome and kde were a bit much. Once I installed /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 with a 'make config-recursive' then chos

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kaya Saman
I would say ufs2 easily wins, but remember this is the freebsd-questions list ;) There are some differences though, ufs2 uses softupdates, not journaling(journaling is available and easy to implement via gjournal). Softupdates I believe are a little faster than journaling, but it's drawba

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 14:42, Kaya Saman wrote: > >> >> Running with no xorg.conf is fine, but you need to make sure dbus and hal >> are started at boot.  Follow the handbook for best results. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html > > I'm sure I started them as this doc

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: > I know how strong UFS v.1 is as I use it with Solaris 9, but how about UFS > v.2 which is what FreeBSD runs?? When compared with ext3 from a > performance/reliability perspective which one comes on top? > I would say ufs2 easily wins, but reme

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kaya Saman
Running with no xorg.conf is fine, but you need to make sure dbus and hal are started at boot. Follow the handbook for best results. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html I'm sure I started them as this doc is exactly what I followed.. I think if I recall correct

Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi guys, > > first up I hope I am in the right place as my questions are of a generic > nature about FreeBSD as I consider myself a new user not having much mileage > with the OS as of yet! > > Secondly I just wanted to wish everyone a happy Ch

New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question

2009-12-28 Thread Kaya Saman
Hi guys, first up I hope I am in the right place as my questions are of a generic nature about FreeBSD as I consider myself a new user not having much mileage with the OS as of yet! Secondly I just wanted to wish everyone a happy Christmas and New Year also since we are in that period :-)