Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-10 Thread perryh
Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: ... it was the _initials_ of the name 'visual iinterace to ed(1). To ed(1), or to ex(1)? (ed(1) being the older -- and by a considerable margin the lighter, which is why we even now keep it in /bin where it does not depend on /usr being mounted.)

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Bill Tillman
From: Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 1:06:31 AM Subject: Re: Newbie Needing Help On Sun, 8 May 2011 17:17:48 -0700 John or Judy Hixson johnorj...@earthlink.net wrote

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread RW
On Sun, 8 May 2011 22:13:16 -0400 Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: The first need to change is your Windoze vocabulary, so the command line is called a shell. Next you will need to eventually master a text editor. The are literally hundreds of text-editor in the Unix world but there are

Re: Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread John or Judy Hixson
On Sun, 08 May 2011 19:49:55, Noel noeld...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/8/2011 7:17 PM, John or Judy Hixson wrote: (Clip) I'm trying to learn some FreeBSD in anticipation of eventually admining a FBSD server for my church office network. I've installed FreeBSD 7.4 on an old PC and am

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 9 May 2011 15:04:36 +0100, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. I'd like to mention the Midnight

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 9 May 2011 10:35:54 -0700, John or Judy Hixson johnorj...@earthlink.net wrote: Actually I'm using 7.4 because that's the latest version Lucas' book covers and I learn better with a book in my hand. When I'm ready to actually use FBSD, I'll get going with the latest production release.

Re: Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Robert Huff
John or Judy Hixson writes: Actually I'm using 7.4 because that's the latest version Lucas' book covers and I learn better with a book in my hand. When I'm ready to actually use FBSD, I'll get going with the latest production release. At the level you're (probably) operating,

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 03:04:36PM +0100, RW wrote: There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. It's not just for software development. I use Vim for

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Antonio Olivares
There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. It's not just for software development.  I use Vim for writing code, but I also use it for writing in

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 03:44:57PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. It's not just for software

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 03:44:57PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. It's not just for software

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 09 May 2011: By the way, I remember a quote: Hello. My $NAME is ~inigo-montoya. You killed my process. Prepare to vi. --The Unix's Bride

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 02:55:22PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: That joke is hilarious. Pedantically speaking, though, it has a small problem: vi is pronounced like vee eye, not like the word vie. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] for(;;)

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon May 9 16:16:48 2011 Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:15:49 -0700 From: Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Needing Help --XRI2XbIfl/05pQwm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content

RE: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Ricardo Cuevas Camarena
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kline Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:21 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Needing Help On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 02:55:22PM -0600, Chad

RE: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon May 9 18:16:11 2011 From: Ricardo Cuevas Camarena rcue...@nic.mx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 17:59:04 -0500 Subject: RE: Newbie Needing Help -Original Message- From: owner

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread John Bandur
2011 From: Ricardo Cuevas Camarena rcue...@nic.mx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 17:59:04 -0500 Subject: RE: Newbie Needing Help -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth John or Judy Hixson on Sunday, 08 May 2011: At the risk of being told to get out of here and never come back (until you know enough to not need to come back), I need help on some very elementary stuff. I haven't found anywhere else to ask these questions and am therefore taking my

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of May 8, 2011 5:45:55 PM -0700, Chip Camden is alleged to have said: For viewing or editing a file, what you want is a text editor. I use vim, but it really isn't designed for beginners. Whatever editor you decide to use, I would advise reading up on it before jumping into text files.

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Noel
On 5/8/2011 7:17 PM, John or Judy Hixson wrote: At the risk of being told to get out of here and never come back (until you know enough to not need to come back), I need help on some very elementary stuff. I haven't found anywhere else to ask these questions and am therefore taking my

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Jon Radel
On 5/8/11 8:17 PM, John or Judy Hixson wrote: At the risk of being told to get out of here and never come back (until you know enough to not need to come back), I need help on some very elementary stuff. I haven't found anywhere else to ask these questions and am therefore taking my

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:17 PM, John or Judy Hixson johnorj...@earthlink.net wrote: At the risk of being told to get out of here and never come back (until you know enough to not need to come back), I need help on some very elementary stuff. I haven't found anywhere else to ask these

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Janos Dohanics
On Sun, 8 May 2011 17:17:48 -0700 John or Judy Hixson johnorj...@earthlink.net wrote: [...] Another problem that's throwing me for a loop is that even though I'm logged in as root I'm getting a permission denied return when I list a file (e.g. /etc/fstab) and press enter. When you enter a