Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The 3ware 9690SA outperforms gmirror and can be had in 4 port with the did you made tests comparing it with gmirror with the same config? battery for $600 or so. 8 port with a battery is closer to $1000 Hardware RAID gets you boot support from stripes, already said what should be done.

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
What you're asking for is too much -- and this conversation is starting to delve into freebsd-hardware, not freebsd-questions. the simple answer is that software RAID on todays computers vastly outperforms ANY hardware raid solution, maybe except the ones for 1$ or more.

RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Ok, I have to pickup gVinum where I left it 4 years ago. Hopefully, the software is stable now. AFAIK it's not at least when i tried it in 6.* ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Wojciech Puchar wrote: | | What you're asking for is too much -- and this conversation is | starting to delve into freebsd-hardware, not freebsd-questions. | | the simple answer is that software RAID on todays computers vastly | outperforms

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:03:02AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: I've occasionally wondered why there isn't a simple device commonly available which consists of a few hundred MB of battery backed (or otherwise persistent in the face of power loss) RAM that can plug into a PCI slot and fulfil

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
| | the simple answer is that software RAID on todays computers vastly | outperforms ANY hardware raid solution, maybe except the ones for 1$ | or more. You're basically correct, but I think you're overestimating the price of a good RAID controller. no. please give me example of any RAID

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: | On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:03:02AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: | I've occasionally wondered why there isn't a simple device commonly available | which consists of a few hundred MB of battery backed (or otherwise

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-10-01 Thread Josh Paetzel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wojciech Puchar wrote: | | the simple answer is that software RAID on todays computers vastly | outperforms ANY hardware raid solution, maybe except the ones for 1$ | or more. You're basically correct, but I think you're overestimating the

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Josh Paetzel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Danny Do wrote: Hello, I am building a 6x500GB SATA HARDWARE RAID5 storage server to - Store large files, 10BM~1GB/file - Handling 500+ concurrent connections - Transfer rate around 100~200Mbit/s I am thinking of using the patch from

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Diego F. Arias R.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Danny Do wrote: Hello, I am building a 6x500GB SATA HARDWARE RAID5 storage server to - Store large files, 10BM~1GB/file - Handling 500+ concurrent connections - Transfer

RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Danny Do
Why do you think slower drives using an interface that has known problems handling concurrent connections will be faster than faster drives using an interface designed for concurrency? My current 6x300GB SCSI system using the FreeBSD default max raw I/O transfer size (64KB). Assume that all reads

RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Wojciech Puchar
SATA using 1MB IO transfer size, I don't know! I think the SATA system will SATA drives aren't much slower than SCSI. simply make this 1MB IO transfer size. as you still want hardware RAID5 it looks you simply read maybe every second word from my mails we exchanged privately.

RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Danny Do
: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2008 9:16 PM To: Danny Do Cc: 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5 SATA using 1MB IO transfer size, I don't know! I think the SATA system will SATA drives aren't much

RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The reason I want to use hardware RAID is because I got so much problem with software RAID5 4 years ago on FreeBSD 5.4. I still remember those nightmares. Furthermore, hardware RAID5 doesn't require much knowledge and management. But you could be right, the CPU speed is triple now, software

RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Danny Do
: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5 The reason I want to use hardware RAID is because I got so much problem with software RAID5 4 years ago on FreeBSD 5.4. I still remember those nightmares. Furthermore, hardware RAID5 doesn't require much knowledge and management. But you could

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 04:49:27AM +0700, Danny Do wrote: I got Perc 4E-DI Embedded Raid Adapter (256MB) from DELL for my current SCSI system. They said it's the enterprise class. I don't know much about the performance between software RAID and hardware RAID. I'm not familiar with PERC (LSI)

Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Peter Giessel
On Tuesday, September 30, 2008, at 02:44PM, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only hardware RAID controller I've seen praise for, under FreeBSD, are Areca controllers. 3ware has provided very good FreeBSD support as well. ___

RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5

2008-09-30 Thread Danny Do
Chadwick Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2008 5:45 AM To: Danny Do Cc: 'Wojciech Puchar'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5 On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 04:49:27AM +0700, Danny Do wrote: I got Perc 4E-DI Embedded Raid Adapter (256MB) from DELL for my current