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By Scott (IP: ---.samsco.org) - Posted on 2005-03-19 19:02:37
I don't know if it's better to post this here or onto the openbsd-m
Theo de Raadt wrote:
re: http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10032&offset=15&rows=28
See a posting from Scott Long of FreeBSD;
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Thanks for going to a public forum and saying I am full of crap.
I really appreciate that. Boy, you sure do want to see all of
our projects do well, don't you.
Appar
There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to
get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I
am going home" stuff just does not work. The vendors need a business
case in order to do things - they are in business to make money and I
can agree wit
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:38:48 -0700, Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Otherwise, stop crying that no one will help you.
Please enlighten us (those who buy Adaptec hardware and would like
full functionality on OpenBSD) why no one at Adaptec will help the
OpenBSD developers by simply giving t
> Of course, sooner or later someone will kindly point them in the
> direction of electronic documentation, in which case I'm sure they'll
> come up with the "oops, our Acrobat licence expired"-excuse.
Your flippant reply, doesn't illustrate the source of the real
problem. Companies in
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Beck
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:44 PM
> To: Bram Van Dam
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: aac support
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> > Of
On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 12:38:48PM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
> Oh boo hoo. You never contacted me. Others in that past have. No, I
> can't now and never could before give out docs, but I've always been
> happy to help, review code, point out bugs, etc. Ask the BSD/OS guys,
> ask the OSDL guys, o
Theo has already talked with enough people to get the number of over
1,800 adaptec aac raid controllers being currently used by openbsd
users. He has emailed this to Doug, Adaptec's contract for opening
docs, and still nothing. It appears that Adaptec isn't interested in
repeat business for probabl
> There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to
> get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I
> am going home" stuff just does not work.
Well, there is.
We do it all the time!
We mail a vendor, and then we start a frank dialogue. I (or some
On Saturday, March 19, Sean Hafeez wrote:
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> There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to
> get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I
> am going home" stuff just does not work.
Other approaches have been tried. Extensively, and for a long
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Tobias Weingartner
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:54 PM
> To: Sean Hafeez
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: aac s
Mark Keating wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tobias Weingartner
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:54 PM
To: Sean Hafeez
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: aac support
On Saturday
* Theo de Raadt [2005-03-19 20:27 -0700]
> We do it all the time!
>
> We mail a vendor, and then we start a frank dialogue. I (or some
> other developer, maybe even Bill Paul from FreeBSD
> (Mr. Ethernet)... anyways, people like that.. ) explain the business
> case to the vendor.
>
> Th
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