Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Subhro
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:18:25 -0400 (EDT), John Gillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: however.. there are still things that could go wrong and I prefer not to find out when a production server heads south or doesn't have the right firmware on the RAID card.. so that's why I lag. You can very well lag

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:31:33PM +0530, Subhro wrote: What about my question about boot strapping? Does that ensure that I could compile the world/kernel of 4.x on 5.3? John No it does not. To be precise as far as I know, there is no way you can compile a native 4.X

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Gary Dunn
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 18:11, John Gillis wrote: My apologies if this has already been asked. I'd like to upgrade my non-production machines to 5.3 once it is released, however I'd like the production servers to lag behind once I make sure everything is working right. This might

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:31:33PM +0530, Subhro wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:18:25 -0400 (EDT), John Gillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: however.. there are still things that could go wrong and I prefer not to find out when a production server heads south or doesn't have the right firmware on

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 09:52:52AM +0530, Subhro wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:11:05 -0400 (EDT), John Gillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My apologies if this has already been asked. I'd like to upgrade my non-production machines to 5.3 Nice idea once it is released, however I'd

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Subhro
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:01:35 +0200, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you actually believe that I have a very nice bridge here you might be interested in. It is certainly the goal that things which worked on 4.x will continue to work in 5.x, and it might even work out that way in

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Subhro
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:06:19 +0200, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You do realise that you can install gcc 3.4 on a 4.x machine and run the binaries compiled with it? For C++ the ABI has changed a couple of times betwenn gcc 2.95 and gcc 3.4, but for C everything should work

RE: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Walker, Michael
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Subhro Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:24 PM To: John Gillis; FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE Depends. It it is a 486sx it will not run 5.x (support for FPU-less systems

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 02:45:38PM +0100, Walker, Michael wrote: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Subhro Yeh, I forgot to mention about the FPU. Thanks for adding up. Just on a side note here, could someone explain to me what a 'FPU-less' system actually is? Ancient history. FPU means

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 06:53:31PM +0530, Subhro typed: [...] First of all, I guess u got a bit too aggresive which I believe is unnecessary. Secondly, Try disassembling a 4.X binary and a 5.X binary, you will understand what I mean. I have done it myself and I am sure about it. Things start

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:31:33PM +0530, Subhro wrote: What about my question about boot strapping? Does that ensure that I could compile the world/kernel of 4.x on 5.3? John No it does not. To be precise as far as I know, there is no way you can compile a native

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-13 Thread Subhro
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:11:05 -0400 (EDT), John Gillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My apologies if this has already been asked. I'd like to upgrade my non-production machines to 5.3 Nice idea once it is released, however I'd like the production servers to lag behind once I make sure

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-13 Thread John Gillis
If everything is not working right, then 5.3 wouldnever be tagged STABLE. This is not Windows. Granted, however I need to make sure that everything works fine in my environment on my hardware with my software. The reason I use FreeBSD is that I trust your release engineering moreso than