Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 18/02/2011 15:59, Daniel Staal wrote: I've been reading over the ZFS-only-boot instructions linked here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS (and further linked from there) and have one worry: Let's say I install a FreeBSD system using a ZFS-only filesystem into a box with hotswapable hard

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of February 19, 2011 12:01:37 PM +, Matthew Seaman is alleged to have said: Let's say I install a FreeBSD system using a ZFS-only filesystem into a box with hotswapable hard drives, configured with some redundancy. Time passes, one of the drives fails, and it is replaced and rebuilt

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/02/2011 13:18, Daniel Staal wrote: Why wouldn't it be? The configuration in the Wiki article sets aside a small freebsd-boot partition on each drive, and the instructions tell you to install boot blocks as part of that partitioning process. You would have to repeat those steps when you

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of February 19, 2011 2:44:38 PM +, Matthew Seaman is alleged to have said: Umm... a sufficiently forgetful sysadmin can break *anything*. This isn't really a fair test: forgetting to write the boot blocks onto a disk could similarly render a UFS based system unbootable. That's why

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread krad
On 19 February 2011 15:35, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: --As of February 19, 2011 2:44:38 PM +, Matthew Seaman is alleged to have said: Umm... a sufficiently forgetful sysadmin can break *anything*.  This isn't really a fair test: forgetting to write the boot blocks onto a disk

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread Andy Tornquist
P0r c qpppqppqpqapprfpprkkqroikiujpou Q R F Rf On 2/18/11, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: I've been reading over the ZFS-only-boot instructions linked here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS (and further linked from there) and have one worry: Let's say I

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:35:35 -0500 From: Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net Subject: Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD [[.. sneck ..]] Basically, if a ZFS boot drive fails, you are likely to get the following scenario: 1) 'What do I need to do to replace a disk in the ZFS pool?' 2) 'Oh

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/02/2011 15:35, Daniel Staal wrote: I'm still not clear on whether a ZFS-only system will boot with a failed drive in the root ZFS pool. If it's a mirror, raidz or similar pool type with resilience, then yes, it certainly will boot with a failed drive. Been there, done that.

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of February 19, 2011 2:12:20 PM -0600, Robert Bonomi is alleged to have said: A non-ZFS boot drive results in immediate, _guaranteed_, down-time for replacement if/when it fails. A ZFS boot drive lets you replace the drive and *schedule* the down-time (for a 'test' re-boot, to make

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: I see the advantage, and that it offers higher levels of resiliency and if properly handled should cause no problems.  I just hate relying on humans to remember things and follow directions.  That's what computers are for.

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-19 Thread perryh
Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: A non-ZFS boot drive results in immediate, _guaranteed_, down-time for replacement if/when it fails. Not if it is gmirrored and hot-pluggable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-18 Thread Daniel Staal
I've been reading over the ZFS-only-boot instructions linked here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS (and further linked from there) and have one worry: Let's say I install a FreeBSD system using a ZFS-only filesystem into a box with hotswapable hard drives, configured with some redundancy. Time

ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-18 Thread Daniel Staal
I've been reading over the ZFS-only-boot instructions linked here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS (and further linked from there) and have one worry: Let's say I install a FreeBSD system using a ZFS-only filesystem into a box with hotswapable hard drives, configured with some redundancy. Time

Re: ZFS-only booting on FreeBSD

2011-02-18 Thread Daniel Staal
Sorry for the dupe, I did send them about 8 hours apart... Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial