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jest first step to criminalize unix at all
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
http://www.spamsuite.com/node/351
jest first step to criminalize unix at all
first step?
Many Unix tools are considered illegal by German law since last summer.
Erich
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Orwell should just change title from "1984" to "2010-15"
Maybe it's just me, but this whole thing kinda feels like somebody
walking around the house naked and then suing an innocent passer-by
for seeing them naked.
Oh my, this is so ridiculous...
Alphons
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jest first step to criminalize unix at all
first step?
Many Unix tools are considered illegal by German law since last summer.
could you mail me more about it ?
it's as stupid as considering knives to be illegal. yes i can kill with
knife, but i don't do this, and need it to slice a bread.
This should go to -chat.
Living just outside of Fargo, I find this interesting. I guess I better
not telnet to service ports to make sure HTTP/SMTP/IMAP/IPOP servers
are running.
Admininstratively, the Zone transfers should be restricted to secondary
peers. If a person constructed the walls of t
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Orwell should just change title from "1984" to "2010-15"
Maybe it's just me, but this whole thing kinda feels like somebody
walking around the house naked and then suing an innocent passer-by
for seeing them naked.
Oh my, this is so ridiculous...
no it is EXACTLY like
Bill Moran wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but this whole thing kinda feels like somebody
walking around the house naked and then suing an innocent passer-by
for seeing them naked.
no it is EXACTLY like that!
Not quite. Seeing somebody naked because they're stupid enough to run
around the house
Living just outside of Fargo, I find this interesting. I guess I better
not telnet to service ports to make sure HTTP/SMTP/IMAP/IPOP servers
are running.
it looks like slowly microsoft is doing their work - to change "internet"
to webbrowsing with everything else forbidden.
Admininstratively,
In response to Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >
> >> Orwell should just change title from "1984" to "2010-15"
> >
> > Maybe it's just me, but this whole thing kinda feels like somebody
> > walking around the house naked and then suing an innocent passer-by
> > fo
On Tuesday 22 January 2008 10:01:49 Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >> Orwell should just change title from "1984" to "2010-15"
> >
> > Maybe it's just me, but this whole thing kinda feels like somebody
> > walking around the house naked and then suing an innocent passer-by
> >
Hi
check google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=illegale+hackertools&btnG=Search&hl=en
The problem will be that the repsective articles will all be in German.
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
jest first step to criminalize unix at all
first step?
Many Unix tools are considered illegal by German law
In response to Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:03:27 +0100 (CET)
> Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > http://www.spamsuite.com/node/351
> >
> > jest first step to criminalize unix at all
>
> No really. This case involved an individual who was accessing and
> a
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:03:27 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.spamsuite.com/node/351
>
> jest first step to criminalize unix at all
No really. This case involved an individual who was accessing and
acquiring information using falsified credentials for an appare
Gerard wrote:
It is not the 'tool' that is being addressed here; but rather, what the
> individual did with it.
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. Ritz's behavior in conducting a zone transfer was unauthorized within
the meaning of the North Dakota Computer Crime Law.
Alphons
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Gerard wrote:
While that may seem slightly harsh, at least for a first offense, it
does point up the fact that people like Ritz are a blight upon the
legitimate computer users community.
Agreed. But upon looking at something like this...
4. Ritz frequently accomplished his access to Sierra's
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:44:37 +
"Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gerard wrote:
>
> > It is not the 'tool' that is being addressed here; but rather, what
> > the individual did with it.
>
> CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
>
> 1. Ritz's behavior in conducting a zone transfer was u
--On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 13:03:27 +0100 Wojciech Puchar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://www.spamsuite.com/node/351
jest first step to criminalize unix at all
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While that may seem slightly harsh, at least for a first offense, it
does point up the fact that people like Ritz are a blight upon the
legitimate computer users community.
what about all these idiots in courts and goverments we all pay huge taxes
for?
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On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 03:00:45PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>jest first step to criminalize unix at all
> >
> >first step?
> >
> >Many Unix tools are considered illegal by German law since last summer.
> >
>
> could you mail me more about it ?
>
> it's as stupid as considering knives to b
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Schmehl
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:25 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: are we CRIMINALS?
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> --On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 13:
--On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 21:57:22 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:25 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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> He disobeyed a court order. That makes him a criminal. Whether
> what he was trying to do was "right" or not is irrelevant. Once the
> court told him to stop, he should have stopped.
I happen to know David Ritz, and it would be extraordinarily out of
character for him to have violated a court
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:08 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: are we CRIMINALS?
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>
> --On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 21:5
--On Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:29 PM -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
He disobeyed a court order. That makes him a criminal.
Only if the court in question has jurisdiction over him. The US
courts found in favor of an anti-trust lawsuit against DeBeers
around 20 years ag
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