Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-24 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duane Hill wrote: | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Greg Larkin wrote: | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Chad Perrin wrote: | | On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:01:54PM +0100, RW wrote: | | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:06:57 +0100 | | RW [EMAIL

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-24 Thread Duane Hill
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Greg Larkin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duane Hill wrote: | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Greg Larkin wrote: | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Chad Perrin wrote: | | On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:01:54PM +0100, RW wrote: | | On Fri, 18

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-22 Thread cpghost
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 09:56:24AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor GELI encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities. Are there any plans for implementing this in the future? What disk encryption softoware would you

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-22 Thread RW
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:47:42 +0200 cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 09:56:24AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor GELI encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities. Are there any plans for

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
To locate them, all a cyrptanalyst has to do is to look out for regions on the partition with very high entropy, The trick is to hide the volume somewhere that is legitimately filled with random numbers. why hiding the ENCRYPTED partition at all? what's a problem someone else will know that

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-22 Thread cpghost
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 08:49:36PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: To locate them, all a cyrptanalyst has to do is to look out for regions on the partition with very high entropy, The trick is to hide the volume somewhere that is legitimately filled with random numbers. why hiding the

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
will know that it exist, being unable to read what's inside. It depends where you live. In some places out there, having encrypted ^^ Within few years it won't. now it mostly doesn't. everywhere everyone is treated as criminal... data alone is already suspicious

disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-18 Thread Chad Perrin
My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor GELI encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities. Are there any plans for implementing this in the future? What disk encryption softoware would you recommend for use with FreeBSD to provide hidden containers? --

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-18 Thread Wojciech Puchar
softoware would you recommend for use with FreeBSD to provide hidden containers? could you please explain what hidden container is? AFAIK geli do exactly that - hidden partition, unless you know to run geli and what is the password ___

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-18 Thread RW
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:24 -0600 Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor GELI encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities. Are you talking about steganography? ___

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-18 Thread RW
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:06:57 +0100 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:24 -0600 Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor GELI encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities. Are you talking

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-18 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:01:54PM +0100, RW wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:06:57 +0100 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:24 -0600 Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor GELI encryption offers

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-18 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chad Perrin wrote: | On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:01:54PM +0100, RW wrote: | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:06:57 +0100 | RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:24 -0600 | Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | My preliminary searches on

Re: disk encryption; hidden containers

2008-07-18 Thread Duane Hill
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Greg Larkin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chad Perrin wrote: | On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:01:54PM +0100, RW wrote: | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:06:57 +0100 | RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:24 -0600 | Chad Perrin [EMAIL