Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-11-30 Thread Paulo
Michael Nottebrock wrote: Paulo wrote: You are forgetting that there are many people that really need fast 3D graphics. In the place I work there are people working on computer animation, 3D models visualization on linux, solaris and freebsd. I wonder what kind of applications they would use on

Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-11-30 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Tuesday, 30. November 2004 09:53, Paulo wrote: Michael Nottebrock wrote: I wonder what kind of applications they would use on FreeBSD for such tasks. Custom developed? And if so, why on FreeBSD, which really isn't a logical choice for a 3D graphics workstation platform? Yes custom

Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-11-30 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Tuesday, 30. November 2004 10:08, Michael Nottebrock wrote: I shouldn't edit around in my replies so much. I meant to say: Well, that's exactly the reason why not freebsd. I didn't know research labs these days choose the software they're working with based on what the software could do

Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-11-30 Thread Paulo
Michael Nottebrock wrote: On Tuesday, 30. November 2004 10:08, Michael Nottebrock wrote: I shouldn't edit around in my replies so much. I meant to say: Well, that's exactly the reason why not freebsd. I didn't know research labs these days choose the software they're working with based on what

Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-11-30 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:23, Paulo wrote: There is something that intrigates me, I use FreeBSD since 1.x and I still see people saying that FreeBSD is not for this kind of application or that. Sorry but I don't know of any limitation in the OS that precludes its use with computer graphics

Re: vinum raid 5

2004-11-30 Thread Brian Szymanski
Brian == Brian Szymanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Actually I experienced a number of bugs with vinum in 5.3 that Brian proved fatal to a root vinum install (in fact, everything on Brian the second ATA channel was marked down after every reboot if I Brian recall correctly). I had

Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-11-30 Thread Thomas Ludwig
Maybe a little OT, but: IMHO the 3D-acceleration issue is too much considered a gamer's problem: There are software producers around like us that use FreeBSD and Linux for their 3D visualization programs. As an example, display of large CFD models needs an excellent VM and good 3D acceleration.

Re: No RAID for VT8237?

2004-11-30 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 07:04 30/11/2004, Mike Jakubik wrote: Ash said: Mike, I'm not sure what the status of RAID on a VT8237 is, but is it possible the array(s) is(are) there and you are not noticing them? No, there is no ar. Just the individual disks. Most of these lower end PATA/SATA RAID controllers are

Re: Beastie

2004-11-30 Thread Seahawk
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, secmgr wrote: Michael Nottebrock wrote: Hanspeter Roth wrote: The problem here is, that the Beastie picture is disabled by default. This is obviously not compatible with the majority of people. You're not up-to-date with the latest events, the beasty menu was

erase2 ( xterm

2004-11-30 Thread Vance Shipley
What's up with the ( key functioning as a backspace key in an xterm? $ stty -a | grep erase2 eol2 = undef; erase = ^?; erase2 = (; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; I tried setting ttyModes to no avail. -Vance ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

problem with the CD driver

2004-11-30 Thread Vlad Manilici
hi, has anyone seen this (kern/74066), except me? my CD driver (acdi(4)) fails while mounting with the following message: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out. it seems to me this is a quite serious issue. vlad ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD

2004-11-30 Thread Jim C. Nasby
I think it's important that companies such as yours that depend on 3D performance write to the various video card manufacturers. As others have pointed out, the home market for 3D support is and will continue to be nill until gaming becomes common on *BSD and Linux. Companies that need good

Re: erase2 ( xterm

2004-11-30 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:12:28 -0500 Vance Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's up with the ( key functioning as a backspace key in an xterm? It doesn't do that here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $TERM xterm [EMAIL PROTECTED] stty -a | grep erase -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop

Re: No RAID for VT8237?

2004-11-30 Thread Mike Jakubik
Bob Bishop said: You might try an 'atacontrol create etc'. I had a problem where I'd defined RAID1 in the BIOS, but 5.3 wouldn't see it (specifically saw the drives individually but no ar0); after atacontrol create... it all works. Go fig. Unfortunately i need to boot off this raid, and i

Re: Beastie

2004-11-30 Thread Hanspeter Roth
On Nov 30 at 06:16, Seahawk spoke: I'd hope that this is only a temporary measure until someone can get around to rewriting the boot menu to load minus beastie as the default, and I'd hope there's the option to enable loading with beastie enabled in either bw or color.

Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla?

2004-11-30 Thread Randy Bush
Throw 'loader_color=YES' into /boot/loader.conf... doh! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 4.10 - 5.3 migration; what happens to vinum volumes?

2004-11-30 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 08:58:36PM +, Ceri Davies wrote: I have a 4.10-STABLE machine that I want to migrate to 5.3-STABLE. Most of the bases are covered, but I'm not sure what to expect for my vinum volumes. I don't have anything esoteric (see attached config), but can I just expect

Re: problem with the CD driver

2004-11-30 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Vlad Manilici [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: has anyone seen this (kern/74066), except me? my CD driver (acdi(4)) fails while mounting with the following message: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out. That's not much of a bug report, though, is it? You haven't even said what happens if you try it

Re: problem with the CD driver

2004-11-30 Thread Vlad Manilici
Hi Lowell, That's not much of a bug report, though, is it? You haven't even said what happens if you try it without ACPI. You are right: without ACPI the same thing happens. I tested the hardware, while booting an OpenBSD installation CD: it works properly. I will gladly answer any further

Re: 4.10 - 5.3 migration; what happens to vinum volumes?

2004-11-30 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
Ceri Davies wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 08:58:36PM +, Ceri Davies wrote: I have a 4.10-STABLE machine that I want to migrate to 5.3-STABLE. Most of the bases are covered, but I'm not sure what to expect for my vinum volumes. I don't have anything esoteric (see attached config), but can I

Re: erase2 ( xterm

2004-11-30 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
I'm cc-ing questions@ in the hope that Vance gets an answer, and because this probably isn't really stable@ material. *To whom it may concern: **Please** remove the freebd-stable CC if you reply. Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:12:28 -0500 Vance Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: No RAID for VT8237?

2004-11-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:09:34AM +, Bob Bishop wrote: You might try an 'atacontrol create etc'. I had a problem where I'd defined RAID1 in the BIOS, but 5.3 wouldn't see it (specifically saw the drives individually but no ar0); after atacontrol create... it all works. Go fig. This

Re: Beastie

2004-11-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 12:25:59PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:23:40PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:16:12PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I sense that what

Mozilla mascot post came out of laughter, not any condescending ill will

2004-11-30 Thread Rob
Yesterday was a lousy grey day in Oregon. And the Beasty posts made me think of the Doctor, and I got a great laugh out of it. He could have belonged to any religion as far as I care. It was just the insanity of it all. For me, it has actually started to make me read posts on this list and

Re: Beastie

2004-11-30 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:08:15PM +, David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 12:25:59PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:23:40PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:16:12PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: It is with a little

Beginning FreeBSD-4.11 Release Cycle

2004-11-30 Thread Ken Smith
The release cycle for FreeBSD-4.11 will be starting shortly, with a target release date of January 24th, 2005. A tentative schedule is available, though not all of the dates for the various steps have been set. Throughout the release cycle the schedule will be updated and available here:

Re: Beastie

2004-11-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Edwin Groothuis wrote this message on Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:21 +1100: On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:08:15PM +, David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 12:25:59PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:23:40PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: That option is already

Re: problem with the CD driver

2004-11-30 Thread Robert Backhaus
Is that the full train of error messages? I have a similar problem that begins with a DONEDRQ warning. I'll be posting my own PR on it tonight if none of the bsdforums crowd can come up with anything. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: No RAID for VT8237?

2004-11-30 Thread Mike Jakubik
David O'Brien said: There are many new SATA RAID controllers that our ATA driver doesn't yet understand the metadata. Soren is working on support for these newer chipsets. Understood, but what im saying is that a list of supported ones would be very useful when trying to decide what hardware

FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out

2004-11-30 Thread Christopher Vance
When I use SATA disks heavily on a 5.3-R machine (Athlon) with the SiI3512 disk controller, I get frequent (sometimes one every 1-5 minutes) WRITE_DMA timed out messages (with different blocks and both disks). It also panics with more than one kind of panic, and sometimes doesn't even get to

Re: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out

2004-11-30 Thread Mykel
Christopher Vance wrote: When I use SATA disks heavily on a 5.3-R machine (Athlon) with the SiI3512 disk controller, I get frequent (sometimes one every 1-5 minutes) WRITE_DMA timed out messages (with different blocks and both disks). It also panics with more than one kind of panic, and sometimes

ACPI errors on GigaByte GA-K8VM800M

2004-11-30 Thread Mike Jakubik
Hi, I am getting the following errors on the GigaByte GA-K8VM800M Motherboard. The system seems to run fine however. Latest BIOS installed. --- Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the

Re: No RAID for VT8237?

2004-11-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 09:38:19PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: David O'Brien said: There are many new SATA RAID controllers that our ATA driver doesn't yet understand the metadata. Soren is working on support for these newer chipsets. Understood, but what im saying is that a list of

Re: problem with the CD driver

2004-11-30 Thread Vlad Manilici
Hi Robert, Is that the full train of error messages? I have a similar problem that begins with a DONEDRQ warning. I'll be posting my own PR on it tonight if none of the bsdforums crowd can come up with anything. Yes, that's all. \Vlad ___ [EMAIL

Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133

2004-11-30 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Mark Kirkwood wrote: After reading of your experiences, the following scenarios suggest themselves: - Booting from cd with the Promise TX2000 Raid card removed - Booting from cd with 1 cpu removed (with or without the TX2000) - (Assuming some of the above work) Moving the TX2000 to a different