Re: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

2008-09-27 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:35:57PM -0700, Derek Kuli??ski wrote: Hello Jeremy, Friday, September 26, 2008, 10:14:13 PM, you wrote: Actually what's the advantage of having fsck run in background if it isn't capable of fixing things? Isn't it more dangerous to be it like that? i.e.

Re: bad NFS/UDP performance

2008-09-27 Thread Danny Braniss
:-vfs.nfs.realign_test: 22141777 :+vfs.nfs.realign_test: 498351 : :-vfs.nfsrv.realign_test: 5005908 :+vfs.nfsrv.realign_test: 0 : :+vfs.nfsrv.commit_miss: 0 :+vfs.nfsrv.commit_blks: 0 : : changing them did nothing - or at least with respect to nfs throughput

Re: bad NFS/UDP performance

2008-09-27 Thread Matthew Dillon
:how can I see the IP fragment reassembly statistics? : :thanks, : danny netstat -s Also look for unexpected dropped packets, dropped fragments, and errors during the test and such, they are counted in the statistics as well. -Matt

Re: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

2008-09-27 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2008-Sep-26 23:44:17 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:35:57PM -0700, Derek Kuli??ski wrote: As far as I know (at least ideally, when write caching is disabled) ... FreeBSD atacontrol does not let you toggle such features (although cap will show you if

Re: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

2008-09-27 Thread Derek KuliƄski
Hello Jeremy, Friday, September 26, 2008, 11:44:17 PM, you wrote: As far as I know (at least ideally, when write caching is disabled) Re: write caching: wheelies and burn-outs in empty parking lots detected. Let's be realistic. We're talking about ATA and SATA hard disks, hooked up to

Re: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

2008-09-27 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:44:17PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:35:57PM -0700, Derek Kuli??ski wrote: Hello Jeremy, Friday, September 26, 2008, 10:14:13 PM, you wrote: Actually what's the advantage of having fsck run in background if it isn't capable of

Re: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

2008-09-27 Thread sthaug
IMHO, a dirty filesystem should not be mounted until it's been fully analysed/scanned by fsck. So again, people are putting faith into UFS2+SU despite actual evidence proving that it doesn't handle all scenarios. Yes, I think the background fsck should be disabled by default, with a

Re: bad NFS/UDP performance

2008-09-27 Thread Danny Braniss
--==_Exmh_1222467420_5817P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline David, You beat me to it. Danny, read the iperf man page: -b, --bandwidth n[KM] set target bandwidth to n bits/sec (default 1 Mbit/sec). This

Re: sysctl maxfiles

2008-09-27 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
On 27/09/2008, at 1:02 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: Anyway, I'd like to know why you have so many fds open simultaneously in the first place. We're talking over 11,000 fds actively open at once -- this is not a small number. What exactly is this machine doing? Are you absolutely certain

Re: 7.1-PRERELEASE freezes (IPFW related)

2008-09-27 Thread Christian Laursen
Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 06:21:01PM +0200, Christian Laursen wrote: I decided to give 7.1-PRERELEASE a try on one of my machines to find out if there might be any problems I should be aware of. I quickly ran into problems. After a while the system

Re: 7.1-PRERELEASE freezes (IPFW related)

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, Christian Laursen wrote: I am now back to running with everything I usually have running on this machine (my primary desktop) but without the ipfw uid rules and the machine is rock stable. I have been running with debug.mpsafenet=0 most likely because I have been using

Re: bad NFS/UDP performance

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Danny Braniss wrote: after more testing, it seems it's related to changes made between Aug 4 and Aug 29 ie, a kernel built on Aug 4 works fine, Aug 29 is slow. I'l now try and close the gap. I think this is the best way forward -- skimming August changes, there are a

Re: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

2008-09-27 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:37:50AM -0700, Derek Kuli??ski wrote: Friday, September 26, 2008, 11:44:17 PM, you wrote: As far as I know (at least ideally, when write caching is disabled) Re: write caching: wheelies and burn-outs in empty parking lots detected. Let's be realistic.

Re: bad NFS/UDP performance

2008-09-27 Thread Danny Braniss
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Danny Braniss wrote: after more testing, it seems it's related to changes made between Aug 4 and Aug 29 ie, a kernel built on Aug 4 works fine, Aug 29 is slow. I'l now try and close the gap. I think this is the best way forward -- skimming August changes, there

Re: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

2008-09-27 Thread Oliver Fromme
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] IMHO, a dirty filesystem should not be mounted until it's been fully analysed/scanned by fsck. So again, people are putting faith into UFS2+SU despite actual evidence proving that it doesn't handle all scenarios. Yes, I think the background

Re: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

2008-09-27 Thread Michel Talon
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: I believe we're in overall agreement with regards to background_fsck (should be disabled by default). In fact background fsck has been introduced for a good reason: waiting for a full fsck on modern big disks is far too long. Similarly write cache is enabled on ata disks

7.1-PRELEASE sporadically panicking with fatal trap 12

2008-09-27 Thread John L. Templer
I'm running 7.1-PRERELEASE, with /usr/src and /usr/ports last csup-ed just a few days ago. After being up for about a day or so the system will panic because of a page fault. I'm not completely sure, but it seems that the system is more stable when gdm and gnome are disabled in rc.conf. At

Re: bad NFS/UDP performance

2008-09-27 Thread Eli Dart
Danny Braniss wrote: I know, but I get about 1mgb, which seems somewhat low :-( If you don't tell iperf how much bandwidth to use for a UDP test, it defaults to 1Mbps. See -b option. http://dast.nlanr.net/projects/Iperf/iperfdocs_1.7.0.php#bandwidth --eli -- Eli Dart

Recommendations for servers running SATA drives

2008-09-27 Thread Charles Sprickman
I'm forking the thread on fsck/soft-updates in hopes of getting some practical advice based on the discussion here of background fsck, softupdates and write-caching on SATA drives. On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: Let's be realistic. We're talking about ATA and SATA hard disks,

Re: sysctl maxfiles

2008-09-27 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:10:01AM +1000, Aristedes Maniatis wrote: By default FreeBSD 7.0 shipped with the sysctls set to: kern.maxfiles: 12328 kern.maxfilesperproc: 11095 [...] Anyway, I'd like to know why you have so many fds open simultaneously in the first

Re: Recommendations for servers running SATA drives

2008-09-27 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 03:16:11PM -0400, Charles Sprickman wrote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: Let's be realistic. We're talking about ATA and SATA hard disks, hooked up to on-board controllers -- these are the majority of users. Those with ATA/SATA RAID controllers (not

Re: sysctl maxfiles

2008-09-27 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 10:14:09PM +0200, Miroslav Lachman wrote: Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:10:01AM +1000, Aristedes Maniatis wrote: By default FreeBSD 7.0 shipped with the sysctls set to: kern.maxfiles: 12328 kern.maxfilesperproc: 11095 [...] Anyway, I'd like to

Re: sysctl maxfiles

2008-09-27 Thread Oliver Fromme
Miroslav Lachman wrote: I don't know what files are really open in the meaning of kern.maxfiles. I have webserver with about 100 hosted domains and there is some numbers: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat -u www | wc -l 9931 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat -u root | wc -l 718

Re: sysctl maxfiles

2008-09-27 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2008-Sep-27 22:14:09 +0200, Miroslav Lachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat -u www | wc -l 9931 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat -u root | wc -l 718 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat | grep httpd | wc -l 6379 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat | grep httpd | wc -l 6002

Warning: known instability using ipfw uid rules

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Watson
An FYI: In the past couple of days, presumably as testing of 7.x becomes more widespread, I've seen several reports of instability resulting from ipfw credential rules. For those unfamiliar with them, these allow the matching of packets in ipfw rules based on the credentials of the socket

7.1-PRERELEASE : bad network performance (nfe0)

2008-09-27 Thread Arno J. Klaassen
Hello, I've serious network performance problems on a HP Turion X2 based brand new notebook; I only used a 7-1Beta CD and 7-STABLE on this thing. Scp-ing ports.tgz from a rock-stable 7-STABLE server to it gives : # scp -p ports.tgz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/ ports.tgz

Re: sysctl maxfiles

2008-09-27 Thread Gary Palmer
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 07:05:08PM +1000, Aristedes Maniatis wrote: On 27/09/2008, at 1:02 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: Anyway, I'd like to know why you have so many fds open simultaneously in the first place. We're talking over 11,000 fds actively open at once -- this is not a small

Re: sysctl maxfiles

2008-09-27 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
On 28/09/2008, at 8:18 AM, Gary Palmer wrote: At least one port recommends you set kern.maxfiles=4 in /boot/loader.conf. I think its one of the GNOME ports. I'm pretty confident you can run that without too many problems, and maybe go higher, but if you really want to know the limit

Re: sysctl maxfiles

2008-09-27 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2008-Sep-27 22:14:09 +0200, Miroslav Lachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat -u www | wc -l 9931 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat -u root | wc -l 718 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat | grep httpd | wc -l 6379 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/# fstat | grep httpd