Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Mark Stapper
Miroslav Lachman wrote: Maciej Jan Broniarz wrote: 2009/9/1 Thomas Backman seren...@exscape.org: On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Maciej Jan Broniarz wrote: I'm not familiar with gmirror, but it'd be a way better idea to mirror it using ZFS if possible - that way you get self-healing and stuff

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Emil Mikulic
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:20:21AM +0200, Mark Stapper wrote: updating a zfs filesystem which you are running from is next to impossible. [citation needed] :) So, i would recommend setting up gmirror to mirror your whole disks, install the base system(boot and world) on a small UFS slice,

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Kenyon Ralph
On 2009-09-02T09:20:21+0200, Mark Stapper st...@mapper.nl wrote: If you feel comfortable enough running your entire system on zfs, you could use a mirrored zpool to boot from. Takes a little more efford, but is more uniform. This is what I did recently, made a 3-way ZFS mirror. Here are my

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Mark Stapper wrote: Miroslav Lachman wrote: [...] Yes, I am using it this way: r...@cage ~/# gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/gms1 COMPLETE ad4s1 ad6s1 r...@cage ~/# zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config:

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Mark Stapper
Emil Mikulic wrote: On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:20:21AM +0200, Mark Stapper wrote: updating a zfs filesystem which you are running from is next to impossible. [citation needed] :) Well, to update your zfs filesystem version, the filesystem is first unmounted, then updated, and

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Thomas Backman
On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Mark Stapper wrote: Emil Mikulic wrote: On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:20:21AM +0200, Mark Stapper wrote: updating a zfs filesystem which you are running from is next to impossible. [citation needed] :) Well, to update your zfs filesystem version, the

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Mark Stapper
Thomas Backman wrote: On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Mark Stapper wrote: Nothing a LiveCD or something to that regard can't handle. Obviously this doesn't work for everyone, but it should for many. Actually it won't because updating zfs comes with updating your world. After updating you world,

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Ronald Klop
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:49:05 +0200, Mark Stapper st...@mapper.nl wrote: Thomas Backman wrote: On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Mark Stapper wrote: Nothing a LiveCD or something to that regard can't handle. Obviously this doesn't work for everyone, but it should for many. Actually it won't

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Ronald Klop wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:49:05 +0200, Mark Stapper st...@mapper.nl wrote: [...] You could, of course, copy the base system to a USB drive, boot from it, and so sidestep the whole can't unmount root problem, but it's hard to insert a USB device over ssh... ... ... Hi, I

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Ed Jobs
On Wednesday 02 September 2009 13:29, Miroslav Lachman wrote: I think zpool export and then zpool import should fix it. See the manpage. a simple zpool import will list all the pools available that you can import, then you can use zpool import -f pool to import it. the only problem i found

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2009-09-02 10:27, Mark Stapper wrote: self-healing sounds very nice, but with mirrorring you have data on two discs, so in that case there no healing involved, it's just checksumming and reading the non-corrupted copy. From the gmirror manpage: All operations like failure detection, stale

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Guido Falsi
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 01:50:24PM +0300, Ed Jobs wrote: On Wednesday 02 September 2009 13:29, Miroslav Lachman wrote: I think zpool export and then zpool import should fix it. See the manpage. a simple zpool import will list all the pools available that you can import, then you can

Re: x11/nvidia-driver cannot obtain EDID under 8.0-BETA3/i386

2009-09-02 Thread Mel Flynn
On Friday 28 August 2009 15:50:30 Eugene Grosbein wrote: Hi! Fresh install of 8.0-BETA2 upgraded to 8.0-BETA3 using source, x.org installed from fresh ports tree. It cannot read EDID from Samsung 959NF CRT monitor. The same time, it can read EDID under 7.2-STABLE just fine. I've tried older

Re: Not getting an IPv6 in a jail

2009-09-02 Thread Steve Bertrand
John Hay wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:29:40PM +0200, FLEURIOT Damien wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 10:13:45PM +0200 or thereabouts, John Hay wrote: I have not used jails with link-local addresses, only global addresses and that works. It looks like you did not specify the whole

Re: Not getting an IPv6 in a jail

2009-09-02 Thread FLEURIOT Damien
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 08:15:24PM + or thereabouts, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Major Domo wrote: Hi, Apologies if this has been discussed already but I searched the web and the mailing lists and haven't found hints on my problem. I've got a jail, I assign it a set of

Re: Not getting an IPv6 in a jail

2009-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
FLEURIOT Damien wrote: BIND's now happily running in its jail and responding to public queries. It's up to you if you choose to do it, but there is no reason to run BIND in a jail. The chroot feature provided by default by rc.d/named is quite adequate security. Doug -- This .signature

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Mark Stapper st...@mapper.nl wrote: Thomas Backman wrote: On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Mark Stapper wrote: Nothing a LiveCD or something to that regard can't handle. Obviously this doesn't work for everyone, but it should for many. Actually it won't

zfs won't automount

2009-09-02 Thread Lisa Besko
I have a system that has a simple zfs raid 0 volume on it and it will now mount when the system boots. After the system is up I can run /etc/rc.d/zfs start and it's fine. I don't see any errors in the log file other than the ZFS is experimental in FreeBSD message. I'm running FreeBSD 7.2

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Jeff Blank
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:53:28PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: Maciej Jan Broniarz wrote: Is is a bad ida to create a zfs pool from a gmirrored slice? zpool create tank /dev/mirror/gm0s1g works fine, but after the reboot the filesystem failes consistency check. It *should* work. What

Re: Not getting an IPv6 in a jail

2009-09-02 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 20090902160440.ga28...@sd-13813.dedibox.fr, FLEURIOT Damien writes : On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 08:15:24PM + or thereabouts, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote : On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Major Domo wrote: Hi, Apologies if this has been discussed already but I searched the web and the

Re: zfs on gmirror slice

2009-09-02 Thread Emil Mikulic
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 10:27:40AM +0200, Mark Stapper wrote: Emil Mikulic wrote: As Thomas Backman pointed out, this means you won't get self-healing. self-healing sounds very nice, but with mirrorring you have data on two discs, so in that case there no healing involved, it's just