Re: Node conflicts in SVN

2012-11-21 Thread Frank Seltzer
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Sergey V. Dyatko wrote: Can you run `svn status`? What does it show ? -- wbr, tiger 'svn status stat' creates a 5.5 meg file mostly consisting of lines like: D Mk/bsd.apache.mk D Mk/bsd.autotools.mk D Mk/bsd.cmake.mk D Mk/bsd.commands.mk D

Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
Hi, As a next question to my building this server. I'm nogt able to get a full verbose dmesg. Probably because the kernelbuffer for it is too small. I know there used to be a kernel option to increase it. But I can not find it with the setting in NOTES or any other place I looked Is it

Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
Hoi, I'm building some new hardware for a customer, and given that 9.1 is about to be around the corner, I installed 9.1-stable. svn from last night Trouble is that a reboot takes for ever... Same with shutdown -r now... What happens is: services get killed we end with all

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2012-Nov-21 10:57:49 +0100, Willem Jan Withagen w...@digiware.nl wrote: Probably because the kernelbuffer for it is too small. I know there used to be a kernel option to increase it. But I can not find it with the setting in NOTES or any other place I looked # Size of the kernel message

Re: Node conflicts in SVN

2012-11-21 Thread Ronald Klop
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:44:22 +0100, Frank Seltzer fran...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Sergey V. Dyatko wrote: Can you run `svn status`? What does it show ? -- wbr, tiger 'svn status stat' creates a 5.5 meg file mostly consisting of lines like: D

Re: Node conflicts in SVN

2012-11-21 Thread Tom Evans
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Frank Seltzer fran...@bellsouth.net wrote: Following that with 'grep -A1 C\ stat' shows 217 lines similar to these: D C accessibility local unversioned, incoming add upon update This says that svn has an entry for a file/directory named

Re: Looking for bge(4) , bce(4) and igb(4) cards

2012-11-21 Thread Mark Saad
Andre I'll try to do it today or next monday when I get back from vacation . They are all hp branded nic's . I ordered them with in the last few years to use in place of bce nic's on the main boards of hp servers . --- On Nov 14, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Andre Oppermann an...@freebsd.org wrote:

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 2012-11-21 11:14, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2012-Nov-21 10:57:49 +0100, Willem Jan Withagen w...@digiware.nl wrote: Probably because the kernelbuffer for it is too small. I know there used to be a kernel option to increase it. But I can not find it with the setting in NOTES or any other place

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 21/11/2012 15:20 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: On 2012-11-21 11:14, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2012-Nov-21 10:57:49 +0100, Willem Jan Withagen w...@digiware.nl wrote: Probably because the kernelbuffer for it is too small. I know there used to be a kernel option to increase it. But I

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 21/11/2012 11:55 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: Hoi, I'm building some new hardware for a customer, and given that 9.1 is about to be around the corner, I installed 9.1-stable. svn from last night Trouble is that a reboot takes for ever... Same with shutdown -r now...

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 2012-11-21 16:10, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 11:55 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: Hoi, I'm building some new hardware for a customer, and given that 9.1 is about to be around the corner, I installed 9.1-stable. svn from last night Trouble is that a reboot takes for

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 2012-11-21 16:08, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 15:20 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: On 2012-11-21 11:14, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2012-Nov-21 10:57:49 +0100, Willem Jan Withagen w...@digiware.nl wrote: Probably because the kernelbuffer for it is too small. I know there used to

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Ian Lepore
On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 16:51 +0100, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: On 2012-11-21 16:08, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 15:20 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: On 2012-11-21 11:14, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2012-Nov-21 10:57:49 +0100, Willem Jan Withagen w...@digiware.nl wrote:

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 21/11/2012 18:01 Ian Lepore said the following: You know what would be great? Have this value auto-tune itself upwards if bootverbose is true. This sounds /potentially/ neat. The sound drivers now spit out so much stuff with bootverbose true that you need like a 128k buffer to see the

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 06:08:12PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 18:01 Ian Lepore said the following: You know what would be great? Have this value auto-tune itself upwards if bootverbose is true. This sounds /potentially/ neat. I do not want the bootverbose knob suddently

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 2012-11-21 16:10, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 11:55 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: Hoi, I'm building some new hardware for a customer, and given that 9.1 is about to be around the corner, I installed 9.1-stable. svn from last night Trouble is that a reboot takes for

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 21/11/2012 19:06 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: Nothing that stands out for me, but then I'm not into FreeBSD kernels. But there is certainly no more userspace processes running other than reboot. Certainly no postfix, that could complain about missing libpcre.so.1 That

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Ian Smith
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:08:12 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 18:01 Ian Lepore said the following: You know what would be great? Have this value auto-tune itself upwards if bootverbose is true. This sounds /potentially/ neat. The sound drivers now spit out so much stuff

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 21/11/2012 19:09 Andriy Gapon said the following: on 21/11/2012 19:06 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: Nothing that stands out for me, but then I'm not into FreeBSD kernels. But there is certainly no more userspace processes running other than reboot. Certainly no postfix, that

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 2012-11-21 18:09, Ian Smith wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:08:12 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 18:01 Ian Lepore said the following: You know what would be great? Have this value auto-tune itself upwards if bootverbose is true. This sounds /potentially/ neat.

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 2012-11-21 18:11, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 19:09 Andriy Gapon said the following: on 21/11/2012 19:06 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: Nothing that stands out for me, but then I'm not into FreeBSD kernels. But there is certainly no more userspace processes running other than

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 2012-11-21 19:05, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 19:48 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: On 2012-11-21 18:27, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: On 2012-11-21 18:11, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 19:09 Andriy Gapon said the following: on 21/11/2012 19:06 Willem Jan Withagen said the

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 21/11/2012 20:08 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: On 2012-11-21 19:05, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 19:48 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: [snip] It seems to to be waiting/working in the ZFS code to get things unmounted. Yeah, oops, this is a known ZFS deadlock in

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 2012-11-21 19:11, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 20:08 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: On 2012-11-21 19:05, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 19:48 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: [snip] It seems to to be waiting/working in the ZFS code to get things unmounted. Yeah,

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 21/11/2012 20:15 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: On 2012-11-21 19:11, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 20:08 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: On 2012-11-21 19:05, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 21/11/2012 19:48 Willem Jan Withagen said the following: [snip] It seems to to be

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:25:22 +0100 Willem Jan Withagen w...@digiware.nl wrote: Why bother... Because FreeBSD also runs on hardware with minimal memory? Because FreeBSD is a stable, sane operating system and we want to keep it that way? Because it breaks POLA? Because it make developers act

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 21 November 2012 09:25, Willem Jan Withagen w...@digiware.nl wrote: Why bother... Memory is so cheap these days. We're talking about 64Kb being wasted. On average I would assume that there is more than this wasted in odd bits and pieces in the kernel. .. and some of us are actively trying

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Ronald Klop
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:41:42 +0100, Torfinn Ingolfsen torfinn.ingolf...@getmail.no wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:25:22 +0100 Willem Jan Withagen w...@digiware.nl wrote: Why bother... Because FreeBSD also runs on hardware with minimal memory? yes, but defaults should be for the masses

Re: bge on the new Mac Mini

2012-11-21 Thread Richard Kuhns
On 11/20/12 03:52, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:30:04AM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote: Hi all, Over the last month or so I've installed FreeBSD 9 (-stable) on several Mac Minis via the memstick image; they seem to be pretty good little boxes for things like offsite secondary

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
.. because some of us like kernel behaviour to be predictable and controllable, rather than 'just be dynamic here, what could possibly go wrong.' Just bump the default kernel buffer size up to 64k and leave it hard-coded like that. Us embedded people can drop that down to something smaller.

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 2012-11-21 21:08, Adrian Chadd wrote: .. because some of us like kernel behaviour to be predictable and controllable, rather than 'just be dynamic here, what could possibly go wrong.' Just bump the default kernel buffer size up to 64k and leave it hard-coded like that. Us embedded people

Re: bge on the new Mac Mini

2012-11-21 Thread YongHyeon PYUN
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:59:34PM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote: On 11/20/12 03:52, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:30:04AM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote: Hi all, Over the last month or so I've installed FreeBSD 9 (-stable) on several Mac Minis via the memstick image; they

Re: bge on the new Mac Mini

2012-11-21 Thread YongHyeon PYUN
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:49:21AM +0900, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:59:34PM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote: On 11/20/12 03:52, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:30:04AM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote: Hi all, Over the last month or so I've installed

RE: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Dewayne Geraghty
+1 (RAM is neither free nor abundant.) Increasing the default buffers, stack or heap use, should be carefully considered. There was a discussion about providing guidance/examples for loader.conf and sysctl.conf for various anticipated uses: firewall, workstation, servers, routers whether

natd in a jail

2012-11-21 Thread Morgan Reed
Hi All, I've a bit of an odd query which I hope somebody may be able to assist with. I'm looking to set up several OpenVPN tunnels on a single machine (each residing in its own jail) and route data to different destinations over different tunnels by selectively routing the traffic via a

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Ian Smith
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:08:42 -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: .. because some of us like kernel behaviour to be predictable and controllable, rather than 'just be dynamic here, what could possibly go wrong.' Just bump the default kernel buffer size up to 64k and leave it hard-coded like

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 22/11/2012, at 14:46, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: Dumping all nodes and channels is incredibly useful for folks needing to rewire something to get various jacks working and such, but I'd argue is way overkill for a 'normal' verbose boot. See acpi(4) for examples of

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
Dearest people, I'm trying to get FreeBSD (back) into a couple orders of magnitude more devices than you're thinking about. When we talk about the masses, let's keep in mind that we have different ideas of what the masses are. I'm trying to keep all of them in mind, rather than just the subset

Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer....

2012-11-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 21 November 2012 20:16, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:08:42 -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: .. because some of us like kernel behaviour to be predictable and controllable, rather than 'just be dynamic here, what could possibly go wrong.' Just bump the