Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:45:53AM +, Ben Morrow wrote: > At 9AM + on 24/01/13 you (Ben Morrow) wrote: > > Quoth 'Jeremy Chadwick' : > > > > > > Regarding your "svn-lite" theory of having that added to src/contrib/, > > > let me introduce you to Subversion's actual dependencies, and I'll

Re: RFC: Suggesting ZFS "best practices" in FreeBSD

2013-01-25 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 08:48:51PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > >On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:58:15PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > >>On Thu, 24 Jan 2013, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> > >#1. Map the physical drive slots to how they show up in FBSD s

Re: RFC: Suggesting ZFS "best practices" in FreeBSD

2013-01-25 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article , wbl...@wonkity.com writes: >As far as "best practices", situations vary so much that I don't know if >any drive ID method can be recommended. For a FreeBSD ZFS document, a >useful sample configuration is going to be small enough that anything >would work. A survey of the techniqu

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 03:20:42PM +0100, Gyrd Thane Lange wrote: > On 23.01.2013 15:40, Oliver Brandmueller wrote: > > However, I either overlook something important or we are now at the > > point we had with cvsup in the early days: The software I need to > > (source-)update the system doens't co

Re: RFC: Suggesting ZFS "best practices" in FreeBSD

2013-01-25 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:58:15PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2013, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: #1. Map the physical drive slots to how they show up in FBSD so if a disk is removed and the machine is rebooted all the disks after that remo

Re: RFC: Suggesting ZFS "best practices" in FreeBSD

2013-01-25 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:58:15PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > >>>#1. Map the physical drive slots to how they show up in FBSD so if a > >>>disk is removed and the machine is rebooted all the disks after that > >>>removed one do not have an 'off

Re: Svnsup architecture [was: Re: svn - but smaller?]

2013-01-25 Thread John Mehr
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:42:19 +0100  Arrigo Marchiori wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:57:17AM -0800, 'Jeremy 1- svnsup-distill: takes a revision from svn and creates a text file (called a delta) that represents it. It seems to be almost complete. To answer one of John Mehr's prob

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread John Mehr
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:27:23 +0100  Oliver Brandmueller wrote: Also I'd like to mention John Mehr, who's work on a "lightweight, dependency-free, BSD licensed program to pull source using the svn protocol" (couldn't say it better, so I use his words :-)). Hope this will make it into ports

Re: bge numbering

2013-01-25 Thread Gary Palmer
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 05:47:39PM +0200, Daniel Braniss wrote: > > On Friday, January 25, 2013 3:46:10 am Daniel Braniss wrote: > > > Hi, > > > this server, a Dell R720 has 4 bge on board, > > > Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x572 > > > bge0: APE FW version: NCSI v1.

Re: Svnsup architecture [was: Re: svn - but smaller?]

2013-01-25 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2013-Jan-25 13:42:19 +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote: >The current svnsup design is composed of: > > 1- svnsup-distill: takes a revision from svn and creates a text file >(called a delta) that represents it. It seems to be almost >complete. > > 2- svnsup-apply: takes a delta generated by

Re: bge bad performance

2013-01-25 Thread Adrian Chadd
Disable the offload options (rx checksum, tx checksum, tcp segment offload) and retry with each option disabled, one at a time. Hopefully you'll find that one or a combination of options is causing your issue. Thanks, adrian On 25 January 2013 02:45, Daniel Braniss wrote: > Hi, > It seems th

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Marin Atanasov Nikolov
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > > > On 25.01.13 21:44, Marin Atanasov Nikolov wrote: > >> Btw, after removing all ZFS snapshots today (more than a 1k) the system >> is still running (not something I can say for the past few days where I've >> seen multiple reboots a day).

Re: RFC: Suggesting ZFS "best practices" in FreeBSD

2013-01-25 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: #1. Map the physical drive slots to how they show up in FBSD so if a disk is removed and the machine is rebooted all the disks after that removed one do not have an 'off by one error'. i.e. if you have ada0-ada14 and remove ada8 then reboot - normall

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 25.01.13 21:44, Marin Atanasov Nikolov wrote: Btw, after removing all ZFS snapshots today (more than a 1k) the system is still running (not something I can say for the past few days where I've seen multiple reboots a day).. But it's still early to say that the snapshots might be causing th

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Marin Atanasov Nikolov
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > I used to get daily(ish) lockups with my server. > Hey Chris, > I guess the drives are mirrored? Try yanking one for a bit (leave the > computer on) and try it in another computer. > Yep, 2 disks each of 1Tb in a mirror. > I tried that,

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 03:12:03PM +0200, Daniel Kalchev wrote: [...] > It is absurd to require the installation of any port, if your only > intention is to update the base system sources. I think others have already pointed this out, but "if your only intention is to update the base system sourc

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Rees
On 25 Jan 2013 18:28, "Dimitry Andric" wrote: > > On 2013-01-25 16:41, Chris Rees wrote: > ... > >> I've just created devel/subversion-static that will be available by pkg_add >> once the package builds are back. > > > Thanks, but the port does not link on head, due to a problem in apr: > > /usr/l

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2013-01-25 16:41, Chris Rees wrote: ... I've just created devel/subversion-static that will be available by pkg_add once the package builds are back. Thanks, but the port does not link on head, due to a problem in apr: /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.a(apr_snprintf.o): In function `apr_vformatter':

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Rees
On 25 Jan 2013 10:27, "Marin Atanasov Nikolov" wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Bob Bishop wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On 25 Jan 2013, at 09:29, Marin Atanasov Nikolov wrote: > > > > > Hello again :) > > > > > > Here's my update on these spontaneous reboots after less than a week > > sin

Re: bge bad performance

2013-01-25 Thread Fleuriot Damien
On Jan 25, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Daniel Braniss wrote: >>> On 25 Jan 2013, at 11:45, Daniel Braniss wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> It seems that I have more issues with the bge, >>>Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x572 >>> >>> ifconfig says: >>> bge2: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 15=00 >

Re: bge bad performance

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Braniss
> > On 25 Jan 2013, at 11:45, Daniel Braniss wrote: > > > Hi, > > It seems that I have more issues with the bge, > > Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x572 > > > > ifconfig says: > > bge2: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 15=00 > > options=c019b > O,LINKSTATE> > > ether xx... > > in

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 25/01/2013 12:26 Marin Atanasov Nikolov said the following: Yes, it's a brand new one. Then no: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve But if a new (as in "replacement") power supply does not change the symptoms, it's likely not the problem.

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:38:33 +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 25/01/2013 13:38, Ian Smith wrote: > > I'm trying to work out exactly when support for checking out 9-STABLE > > CVS sources - and I'm only talking about system sources here - will end? > > The date that CVS for src will cease to

Re: bge numbering

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Braniss
> On Friday, January 25, 2013 3:46:10 am Daniel Braniss wrote: > > Hi, > > this server, a Dell R720 has 4 bge on board, > > Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x572 > > bge0: APE FW version: NCSI v1.1.7.0 > > bge0: CHIP ID 0x0572; ASIC REV 0x5720; CHIP REV 0x57200

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Rees
On 25 Jan 2013 13:39, "Ian Smith" wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:57:17 -0800, 'Jeremy Chadwick' wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 06:34:33PM +1100, Dewayne wrote: > > > The objective is to return to a base build of FreeBSD that performs > > > the expected task of being able to pull source

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 25/01/2013 13:38, Ian Smith wrote: > I'm trying to work out exactly when support for checking out 9-STABLE > CVS sources - and I'm only talking about system sources here - will end? The date that CVS for src will cease to be kept in sync with SVN and when cvsup etc. are officially withdrawn fo

Re: bge numbering

2013-01-25 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday, January 25, 2013 3:46:10 am Daniel Braniss wrote: > Hi, > this server, a Dell R720 has 4 bge on board, > Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x572 > bge0: APE FW version: NCSI v1.1.7.0 > bge0: CHIP ID 0x0572; ASIC REV 0x5720; CHIP REV 0x57200; PCI-E >

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Fleuriot Damien
On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > > As others have suggested, an SVN package that could be installed with a > static build and run dependency-free binary would help ease the pain for > those looking specifically at updating 9.x or 8.x sources to -STABLE as > a directly usable cs

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Oliver Brandmueller
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:27:23AM +0100, Oliver Brandmueller wrote: ... an Ian Smith and des for working on a svnsup solution, which also might in the future be something that solves the problem! - Oliver -- | Oliver Brandmueller http://sysadm.in/ o...@sysadm.in | |

Re: bge bad performance

2013-01-25 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 25 Jan 2013, at 11:45, Daniel Braniss wrote: > Hi, > It seems that I have more issues with the bge, > Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x572 > > ifconfig says: > bge2: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=c019b O,LINKSTATE> > ether xx... > inet6 xxx prefixlen 64 scope

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:57:17 -0800, 'Jeremy Chadwick' wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 06:34:33PM +1100, Dewayne wrote: > > The objective is to return to a base build of FreeBSD that performs > > the expected task of being able to pull source, without having to > > acquire a port. Regardless

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 23.01.13 21:09, Peter Wemm wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote: 1) License. Many of SVN's dependencies will never be available in the FreeBSD source. While this is totally OK for development, SVN is 3rd party software, this is unacceptable to force as 'the'

Svnsup architecture [was: Re: svn - but smaller?]

2013-01-25 Thread Arrigo Marchiori
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:57:17AM -0800, 'Jeremy Chadwick' wrote: [...] > Also, just as a footnote point to readers: please do not bring up > svnsup. Until it's stated by some official FreeBSD person that > "{committers} are actively working on this and bringing it into the base > system so peop

bge bad performance

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Braniss
Hi, It seems that I have more issues with the bge, Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x572 ifconfig says: bge2: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=c019b ether xx... inet6 xxx prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet xxx... netmask 0xf000 broadcast yyy nd6 options=21 media:

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 25/01/2013 12:26 Marin Atanasov Nikolov said the following: > Yes, it's a brand new one. Then no: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebs

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Marin Atanasov Nikolov
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Bob Bishop wrote: > Hi, > > On 25 Jan 2013, at 09:29, Marin Atanasov Nikolov wrote: > > > Hello again :) > > > > Here's my update on these spontaneous reboots after less than a week > since > > I've updated to stable/9. > > > > First two days the system was runni

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, On 25 Jan 2013, at 09:29, Marin Atanasov Nikolov wrote: > Hello again :) > > Here's my update on these spontaneous reboots after less than a week since > I've updated to stable/9. > > First two days the system was running fine with no reboots happening, so I > though that this update actual

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 01/25/2013 10:29 AM, Marin Atanasov Nikolov wrote: Hello again :) Here's my update on these spontaneous reboots after less than a week since I've updated to stable/9. First two days the system was running fine with no reboots happening, so I though that this update actually fixed it, but I w

Re: Spontaneous reboots on Intel i5 and FreeBSD 9.0

2013-01-25 Thread Marin Atanasov Nikolov
Hello again :) Here's my update on these spontaneous reboots after less than a week since I've updated to stable/9. First two days the system was running fine with no reboots happening, so I though that this update actually fixed it, but I was wrong. The reboots are still happening and still no

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Oliver Brandmueller
Hi folks, thank you for all the answers and fruitful discussion. Special thanks goes to Chris Rees for coming up with the subversion-static ports quite fast, so now we're hoping for package building to kick in here - but that is a quick and very useful way after setting up a fresh machine (spe

bge numbering

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel Braniss
Hi, this server, a Dell R720 has 4 bge on board, Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x572 bge0: APE FW version: NCSI v1.1.7.0 bge0: CHIP ID 0x0572; ASIC REV 0x5720; CHIP REV 0x57200; PCI-E miibus0: on bge0 ... I have connected the ethernet to port labe

acpi resume related patch

2013-01-25 Thread Andriy Gapon
If you have ACPI suspend/resume working, if it used to work but stopped working at some time, if it never worked, but you are still hoping, could you please test the following patch and report back? http://svn.freebsd.by/files/acpi-apic-wakeup-final.patch -- Andriy Gapon ___

Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-01-25 Thread Derek Kulinski
Hello Sergey, Thursday, January 24, 2013, 10:09:58 PM, you wrote: >> I think you don't understand the reason why people are asking for >> this. I personally experienced the need not long ago. I had stable/9 >> branch and wanted to downgrade to 9.0. The entire process went well >> until I rebooted