Re: freebsd downgrade

2015-07-24 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 06:36:32PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 08:25:55AM -0700, Navdeep Parhar wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:50:10AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > For me -- degradate network performance, about 30%. I am do > > > > >

Re: help me understand latest->quarterly pkg.conf switch

2015-07-24 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 09:23:12PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: > On 2015-07-24 17:27, Glen Barber wrote: > >On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 05:15:52PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: > >>I noticed that in stable/10, /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf was switched from > >>using > >>latest package set to whichever one t

Re: help me understand latest->quarterly pkg.conf switch

2015-07-24 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 2015-07-24 17:27, Glen Barber wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 05:15:52PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: I noticed that in stable/10, /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf was switched from using latest package set to whichever one that is "quarterly" word is pointing to at the moment. What is the motivation

FreeBSD 10.2-RC1 Now Available

2015-07-24 Thread Glen Barber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The first RC build of the 10.2-RELEASE release cycle is now available. Installation images are available for: o amd64 GENERIC o i386 GENERIC o ia64 GENERIC o powerpc GENERIC o powerpc64 GENERIC64 o sparc64 GENERIC The image checksums follow at the

Re: MFC r282973 (disable libgomp build) and r283060 (disable libgcov build)?

2015-07-24 Thread Brooks Davis
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 02:15:28PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote: > On 24 Jul, Matthieu Volat wrote: > > I'm not fond of lang/gcc as openmp "provider": if a port use c++, it > > will cause linkage headaches with libc++ (I never was able to have > > graphics/darktable working, for example). > > You might

Re: help me understand latest->quarterly pkg.conf switch

2015-07-24 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 05:15:52PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: > I noticed that in stable/10, /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf was switched from using > latest package set to whichever one that is "quarterly" word is pointing to > at the moment. What is the motivation for this change? > This was not done

Re: FreeBSD 10.1_RELEASE to FreeBSD 10.2 BETA2

2015-07-24 Thread Stari Karp
On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 23:07 +0300, Pavel Timofeev wrote: > 2015-07-24 18:43 GMT+03:00 Stari Karp : > > On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 06:40 -0700, timp wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> > 1. VT module doesn't load. > >> > In /boot/loader.conf I have: > >> > kern.vty=vt > >> > but it doesn't work. If I manual lo

Re: FreeBSD 10.1_RELEASE to FreeBSD 10.2 BETA2

2015-07-24 Thread Stari Karp
On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 23:07 +0300, Pavel Timofeev wrote: > 2015-07-24 19:17 GMT+03:00 Stari Karp : > > On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 06:40 -0700, timp wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> > 1. VT module doesn't load. > >> > In /boot/loader.conf I have: > >> > kern.vty=vt > >> > but it doesn't work. If I manual lo

Re: MFC r282973 (disable libgomp build) and r283060 (disable libgcov build)?

2015-07-24 Thread Don Lewis
On 24 Jul, Matthieu Volat wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:03:01 -0700 (PDT) > Don Lewis wrote: > >> Should r282973 and r283060 be MFCed to FreeBSD 10? On amd64 and i386, >> which use clang as their base compiler and don't have gcc in base by >> default, the math/scilab port uses clang for cc and

Re: FreeBSD 10.1_RELEASE to FreeBSD 10.2 BETA2

2015-07-24 Thread Stari Karp
On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 23:07 +0300, Pavel Timofeev wrote: > 2015-07-24 18:43 GMT+03:00 Stari Karp : > > On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 06:40 -0700, timp wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> > 1. VT module doesn't load. > >> > In /boot/loader.conf I have: > >> > kern.vty=vt > >> > but it doesn't work. If I manual lo

help me understand latest->quarterly pkg.conf switch

2015-07-24 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
I noticed that in stable/10, /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf was switched from using latest package set to whichever one that is "quarterly" word is pointing to at the moment. What is the motivation for this change? Quarterly package sets are useful if the end-user is able to pick which one to pull from

Re: FreeBSD 10.1_RELEASE to FreeBSD 10.2 BETA2

2015-07-24 Thread Pavel Timofeev
2015-07-24 18:43 GMT+03:00 Stari Karp : > On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 06:40 -0700, timp wrote: >> Hi! >> >> > 1. VT module doesn't load. >> > In /boot/loader.conf I have: >> > kern.vty=vt >> > but it doesn't work. If I manual loada module witk kldload radeonkms I >> > got just black screen and nothin

Re: FreeBSD 10.1_RELEASE to FreeBSD 10.2 BETA2

2015-07-24 Thread Pavel Timofeev
2015-07-24 19:17 GMT+03:00 Stari Karp : > On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 06:40 -0700, timp wrote: >> Hi! >> >> > 1. VT module doesn't load. >> > In /boot/loader.conf I have: >> > kern.vty=vt >> > but it doesn't work. If I manual loada module witk kldload radeonkms I >> > got just black screen and nothin

Re: struct timehands: th_generation field

2015-07-24 Thread deco33000 Jog
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Re: FreeBSD 10.1_RELEASE to FreeBSD 10.2 BETA2

2015-07-24 Thread Stari Karp
On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 06:40 -0700, timp wrote: > Hi! > > > 1. VT module doesn't load. > > In /boot/loader.conf I have: > > kern.vty=vt > > but it doesn't work. If I manual loada module witk kldload radeonkms I > > got just black screen and nothing more. > > As I know it's not a module. A

Re: struct timehands: th_generation field

2015-07-24 Thread deco33000
OK. I read the document and understood it I guess. Very interesting, and well engineered. On x86/i386/amd64, could not all this be replaced by a simple call to apic timer ? We would get the timestamp, we can even store it, make calculation on top of it. My jugement may miss something important

Re: struct timehands: th_generation field

2015-07-24 Thread Adrian Chadd
accessing hardware isn't free. Locking also isn't free. That's why there's this mechanism. -adrian On 24 July 2015 at 08:58, wrote: > > OK. > > I read the document and understood it I guess. > Very interesting, and well engineered. > > On x86/i386/amd64, could not all this be replaced by a s

Re: FreeBSD 10.1_RELEASE to FreeBSD 10.2 BETA2

2015-07-24 Thread Stari Karp
On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 06:40 -0700, timp wrote: > Hi! > > > 1. VT module doesn't load. > > In /boot/loader.conf I have: > > kern.vty=vt > > but it doesn't work. If I manual loada module witk kldload radeonkms I > > got just black screen and nothing more. > > As I know it's not a module. A

Re: freebsd downgrade

2015-07-24 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 08:25:55AM -0700, Navdeep Parhar wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:50:10AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > > > > > > For me -- degradate network performance, about 30%. I am do > > > > verification now, by downgrading kernel. > > > > > > What kind of workload and

Re: freebsd downgrade

2015-07-24 Thread Navdeep Parhar
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:50:10AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > > > > For me -- degradate network performance, about 30%. I am do > > > verification now, by downgrading kernel. > > > > What kind of workload and what NIC are you using? > > Chelsio T580-LP-CR, http serving. > r276179 can

Re: table with bug in ipfw

2015-07-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Marcelo Gondim wrote: > On 24-07-2015 11:31, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> This one was fixed in r266310 (based on bin/189471) but I haven't >>> merged it to -stable. >>> >> Because it changes ip_fw.h, would it break KABI or ABI ? >> Would that prevent a mer

Re: table with bug in ipfw

2015-07-24 Thread Marcelo Gondim
On 24-07-2015 11:31, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! This one was fixed in r266310 (based on bin/189471) but I haven't merged it to -stable. Because it changes ip_fw.h, would it break KABI or ABI ? Would that prevent a merge to 10.2 ? I do not know if it affects the rule or whether it is merely visual

Re: table with bug in ipfw

2015-07-24 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > This one was fixed in r266310 (based on bin/189471) but I haven't > merged it to -stable. Because it changes ip_fw.h, would it break KABI or ABI ? Would that prevent a merge to 10.2 ? -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 5 years to go ! _

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Michael B. Eichorn
> > ...more RAM? Always more RAM? > > Reality check please, this is an i386 Machine with 2 Gbytes. > It has two of 3 sockets polluted with RAM Modules (1G), there is not > that > much Space to give it more RAM. > > i386 is a supported architecture as far as I know, ok it where nice to > have i

Re: table with bug in ipfw

2015-07-24 Thread Alexander V . Chernikov
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Re: table with bug in ipfw

2015-07-24 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > Do you have a problem report for this in bugzilla ? I try to poke re@ Found it: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=200169 -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 5 years to go ! ___ freebsd-stable@free

Re: table with bug in ipfw

2015-07-24 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > Bug persists. > > (root@mail)[/usr/src]# ipfw table 22 list > > (root@mail)[/usr/src]# ipfw table 22 add 0.0.0.0/8 > (root@mail)[/usr/src]# ipfw table 22 list > ::/8 0 Do you have a problem report for this in bugzilla ? I try to poke re@ -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372

Re: table with bug in ipfw

2015-07-24 Thread Marcelo Gondim
Hi Melifaro, Bug persists. (root@mail)[/usr/src]# ipfw table 22 list (root@mail)[/usr/src]# ipfw table 22 add 0.0.0.0/8 (root@mail)[/usr/src]# ipfw table 22 list ::/8 0 (root@mail)[/usr/src]# uname -a FreeBSD mail.stefaninogueira.com 10.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 10.2-PRERELEASE #1 r285832: Fri Jul

Re: FreeBSD 10.1_RELEASE to FreeBSD 10.2 BETA2

2015-07-24 Thread timp
Hi! > 1. VT module doesn't load. > In /boot/loader.conf I have: > kern.vty=vt > but it doesn't work. If I manual loada module witk kldload radeonkms I > got just black screen and nothing more. As I know it's not a module. And you can't load it. I have a workstation under 10.2-BETA2 amd64

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-24 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Bezüglich Harald Schmalzbauer's Nachricht vom 24.07.2015 15:19 (localtime): > Bezüglich Ian Lepore's Nachricht vom 12.07.2015 17:41 (localtime): >> And let's all just hope that a week or two of testing is enough when >> jumping a major piece of software forward several years in its >> independent

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Chris H
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:50:52 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote > On 07/24/15 07:58, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > ..interrestingly people here seem to focus my problem to ZFS.. but my > > problem was to build an raid over 4 disks on my old i386 machine and that > > failed with 2 different approaches. > > > > I

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-24 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Bezüglich Ian Lepore's Nachricht vom 12.07.2015 17:41 (localtime): > And let's all just hope that a week or two of testing is enough when > jumping a major piece of software forward several years in its > independent evolution. … > I wonder how many other such things could be lurking in 4.2.8, wai

10.2-BETA2 patch etc/ntp.conf, for upgraders utilizing ntpdc(8) [WAS: Re: 10.2-BETA2 patch etc/ntp.conf to enable ntpd pool client functionality]

2015-07-24 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Bezüglich Matt Smith's Nachricht vom 24.07.2015 11:35 (localtime): > On Jul 24 12:27, John Marshall wrote: >> I have submitted a patch to the distributed ntp.conf to enable ntpd pool >> client functionality. This was not possible in the ancient version of >> ntpd shipped with FreeBSD releases ove

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > ...more RAM? Always more RAM? For ZFS, yes. Stick to UFS otherwise. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allber...@gmail.com ballb...@sinenomine.net unix, openafs,

Re: freebsd downgrade

2015-07-24 Thread Walter Hop
> I had a problems with FreeBSD 10.2-BETA2. I used freebsd-update ugrade > and update FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE. > Is it possible to downgrade BETA2 to 10.1-RELEASE with freebsd-update > upgrade -r 10.1-RELEASE, please? In my experience, downgrading with freebsd-update works fine, although I only went

Re: freebsd downgrade

2015-07-24 Thread Stari Karp
On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 16:51 -0700, Xin Li wrote: > On 07/23/15 16:21, Stari Karp wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I had a problems with FreeBSD 10.2-BETA2. I used freebsd-update > > ugrade and update FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE. Is it possible to downgrade > > BETA2 to 10.1-RELEASE with freebsd-update upgrade -r 1

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Glen Barber wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 02:54:00AM +0200, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > >> >> Actually I'm quite sucessfully running zfs on i386 (in a VM) ... here's >> the trick (which leads me to suspect ARC handling as the problem) - when >> I get to 512M of kernel space or less than 1G of

Re: 10.2-BETA2 patch etc/ntp.conf to enable ntpd pool client functionality

2015-07-24 Thread Matt Smith
On Jul 24 12:27, John Marshall wrote: I have submitted a patch to the distributed ntp.conf to enable ntpd pool client functionality. This was not possible in the ancient version of ntpd shipped with FreeBSD releases over the past several years. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Holm Tiffe
Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 07/24/15 07:58, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > ..interrestingly people here seem to focus my problem to ZFS.. but my > > problem was to build an raid over 4 disks on my old i386 machine and that > > failed with 2 different approaches. > > > > I'm accepting that ZFS is a too big

local_unbound & chroot

2015-07-24 Thread Ferdinand Goldmann
Hello, I’ve made the experience that enabling local_unbound does not play too well if I am using a chroot’ed unbound environment like chroot: “/var/unbound” in the configuration file. In particular, there is no way to automatically mount a devfs and create a link to the syslog socket. Also, the

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 07/24/15 07:58, Holm Tiffe wrote: > ..interrestingly people here seem to focus my problem to ZFS.. but my > problem was to build an raid over 4 disks on my old i386 machine and that > failed with 2 different approaches. > > I'm accepting that ZFS is a too big thing for the i386 architecture > a

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 07/24/15 07:58, Holm Tiffe wrote: > ..interrestingly people here seem to focus my problem to ZFS.. but my > problem was to build an raid over 4 disks on my old i386 machine and that > failed with 2 different approaches. > > I'm accepting that ZFS is a too big thing for the i386 architecture > a

Re: freebsd downgrade

2015-07-24 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:43:11AM -0700, Xin Li wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 7/24/15 00:20, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 04:51:07PM -0700, Xin Li wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > >> > >> On 07/

Re: freebsd downgrade

2015-07-24 Thread Xin Li
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 7/24/15 00:20, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 04:51:07PM -0700, Xin Li wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 >> >> On 07/23/15 16:21, Stari Karp wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> I had a problems with FreeBSD 1

Re: freebsd downgrade

2015-07-24 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 04:51:07PM -0700, Xin Li wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 07/23/15 16:21, Stari Karp wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I had a problems with FreeBSD 10.2-BETA2. I used freebsd-update > > ugrade and update FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE. Is it possible to downg

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Holm Tiffe
Glen Barber wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 07:44:43PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:43:43AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > Even on amd64, you need to tune the system with less than 4GB RAM. > > > > The only correct answer to "how much RAM do you need to run ZFS" is

Re: 10.2-Beta i386..what's wrong..?

2015-07-24 Thread Holm Tiffe
Glen Barber wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 08:42:44PM -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > > > zfs is a resource hog. i386 is not able to handle the demand as well > > > as amd64. > > > > > > > Even amd64 is no guarantee. I installed on