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f you're unable to complete those steps, then you may be better off
reinstalling and trying again - write it off as part of the learning
process. There are ways to restore your system if you've made this
mistake and the above doesn't
he previous paragraphs).
On a production system, you should have a serial terminal connected so you
can go to single-user mode remotely to do updates. There are fairly
inexpensive serial terminal boxes available from a number of vendors, and
if you have a spare machine available, you can always hook i
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> Bill Moran wrote:
> > The system can not replace programs that are in use,
>
> This is generally not the case. Unix lets you continue to access a file
> after
> it has been deleted, so long as the process hangs on to a file d
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> Subject: Re: Newbie Question About System Update
> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:32:37 -0400
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> > Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >Fact is, trying to update a running system could result in silent failures.
> >The system can not replace programs that are in use, so there's always the
> >chance
a proper upgrade remotely, because you
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the same idea of what I was thinking when I compared a serial console to
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1. Reboot system
2. System claims all buffers flushed, then just hangs
3. After hardbooting, filesystems need fscked
I noticed others with similar complaints about OpenOffice, so I haven't
said much. The problem also happens pretty rarely, and I don't have any
idea how to rep
ght be the only real advantage of a serial console. The unit you
pointed to is ~$4000.00, whereas 16-port serial console units run more
like $1000.00.
Of course, the obvious advantage to the networkable KVM is that you can
remotely admin GUI-based servers easily.
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> > Alexander Rusinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I need to run a number of PostgreSQL servers in different FreeBSD jails.
>
What I've seen in the UPDATING file seems to refer to 3.X upgraded to
4.X
As far as I can tell there is no special documented procedure for
updating within the 4.X line. Should be able to do everything in the
ordinary way. I've done it that way on the current system.
Along those same lines ... I'm
Oops ... my mistake. A bit further down in the file there ...
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>
> To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current
> 4.x-STABLE
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> Well, I just cvsup'ed 1 hour ago and built world. No problems. That segfault
> you got when building perl looks really odd. Other people have said that
> segfaults during buildworld are generally hardware problems. Most likely
> memory.
I'd be surprised ... considering I
Doug Barton wrote:
> I think a better question is, why does rmuser need to check the
> validity of the username at all?
Should it do wildcarding? If not, it needs to check for invalid chars
that could be used to wildcard.
On the flipside, wildcarding might be nice.
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> dont think this is the place to ask newbie install questions. If you
> could
John Baldwin wrote:
> It is kind of semantic. However, on the alpha it is hardly dangerous. Nor
> do we fake a MBR on the alpha (which is what makes it dangerous). The alpha
> architecture doesn't use MBR's, but the PC arch does. Thus, having a disklabel
> on the alpha is normal, having one at
Jorge Filipe Andrade wrote:
> I am to have problems with the memory of my server.
> I have 384MB, and I have 200MB of Swap, it simply, passed one week
You should have more swap than RAM.
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I seem to be "memory leak guy" this month ...
Is it normal for rpc.statd to soak up 257M (as reported by top in the
size column)? The "res" column shows 542K.
The machine seems to be functioning just fine otherwise. It just seems a
little unusual.
It's a 4.2-STABLE (Jan 8) machine and it's servic
r most hardware and that significant performance improvements
can be made in most cases by raising it.
While it would be nice if FreeBSD shipped with a more performant default
setting, it would also be nice if mindless benchmark drones would quit
assuming that every system ships pre-configured to
In response to Robert Huff :
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> Bill Moran writes:
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> > It's common knowledge that the default value for vfs.read_max is
> > non- optimal for most hardware and that significant performance
> > improvements can be made in most cases by raising it.
>
>
Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src/release.
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> getting FreeBSD installed + upgraded to 6.2, building a kernel that
> has PAE enabled and then putting the extra RAM back in.
>
> Any other administrators have tips/comments?
I have no idea if the problem is related to PAE, but have you tried
booting an amd64 kernel on
P4 systems have
64 bit support. Unless it's specifically an Itanium (in which case
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I can do, _please_ let me know. I might even be able to get remote
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> In my case, it's a bce driver that's doing it. I also have some em
> cards in this machine that I can test if the information will be
> helpful.
Note that I can _not_ reproduce the problem with an em interface (a
PCI NI
1:1:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(da0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(da0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0
(da0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Medium not present
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Opened disk da0 -> 6
Trying to moun
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> Bill Moran wrote:
> > A reboot causes the OS to halt, but the hardware just sits there on the
> > shutdown screen.
> >
> > A shutdown -p does the same.
> >
> > Other ACPIish stuff seems to work as ad
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> At 12:27 PM 10/4/2006, Bill Moran wrote:
> >In response to Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > In my case, it's a bce driver that's doing it. I also have some em
> > > cards in
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> > In response to Guy Helmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> Bill Moran wrote:
> >>
> >>> A reboot causes the OS to halt, but the hardware just sits there on the
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> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 12:28:35PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> >
> > A reboot causes the OS to halt, but the hardware just sits there on the
> > shutdown screen.
> >
> > A shutdown -p does
t; Remote console access would be a help. I suspect there may be more
> than one problem here.
In progress ... I'll contact you privately when it's ready.
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> | > > Hi,
> | > >
> | > > On Wed,
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> | On Tuesday 10 October 2006 08:54, Bill Moran wrote:
> | > In response to Doug Ambrisko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> | > > Bruno Ducrot writes:
> | > > | On Wed, Oct 04,
I've copied many of the people who I've been working with directly on
this issue.
Can anyone provide a status update on these problems? Discussion seems
to have stopped since Oct 5.
Any new patches to test?
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> happen to NIC?
It's unlikely that this has anything to do with FreeBSD. It's more
likely that a networking problem is causing packets to take multiple
routes back at times, thus arriving twice.
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> On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 02:53:15PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> > In response to Doug Ambrisko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > John Baldwin writes:
> > > | On Tuesday 10 October 2006 08:54, Bill Moran
the thread in hardware@ please, I've been unable to find it searching
the archives. I'm guessing "bce" is not part of the title?
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> interface working fine (cf. thread on freebsd-hardware).
Are you saying that the version from that site makes your bce card
reliable? Doesn't seem to address the issues being worked on:
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> the changes in HEAD work for them. So far, no one has.
I'm working on that now. I wasn't aware that improvements had been
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> > Conrad Burger wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > It looks like there is a "new" version of the bce driver in HEAD.
> > > When w
AD* in the latest RELENG_6 didn't fix our
> problems.
>
> We could still trigger the Watchdog timeout when copying a local file to
> an NFS mounted filesystem (UDP mount, GigE speeds).
Same here, although it seemed to require a lot more effort to produce the
problem.
I see ther
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> > Scott Long wrote:
> > > Conrad Burger wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi
> > >>
> > >> It looks like there is a "
onnections.
I'm seeing similar improvement. I've been testing the new version since
I came in this morning (About 2.5 hours so far), with no failures.
This is the first version of the driver that has allowed me to actually
complete a buildworld over NFS.
I will continue testing and
tried running the make with
> an increased nice level, but that doesn't seem to change
> much. and looking through ports there only seems to be
> cpu monitoring tools, not suppression?
It's unlikely that there's anything you can do in software to fix this
problem. You need t
There are often discussions of
huge databases there:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/
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> resolve this problem.
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install CD that I'm using today
to install on several others. Haven't had to tweak anything at all
in the BIOS.
I missed the start of this thread. Did you give any more hardware
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Are there open PRs on this? We've not had any problems. Although
our amd64 deployment is still young, we have several machines humming
away happily. Where did you have problems, specif
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> > Just experienced an "interrupt storm" on an em device that disabled a
> > server until I could reboot it.
> >
> > My ini
rs:
I would take some extra time to turn "think" into "know" before wasting
any time pissing around with kernels. The above error sounds like a
routing and/or port-blocked issue.
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ng 1955 Blades and would
> very much like to install FreeBSD on them :)
Support for them is in CURRENT and 6.2, although the comment saying
that they're _not_ supported is still there as well ;)
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> > > > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Any development here? We have just started purchasing 1955 Blades and
> > > would
> > > very much like to install FreeBSD on them :)
> >
> > Support for them is in CURRENT and
FCed
back in to 6.
Keep in mind also that the holidays tend to slow things down, it might
be early January before you get a lot of people looking at this issue
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onsideration your existing IPFW rules,
as this will not work if a previous rule allows the connection.
> Also how do I block out IPs after a certain number of invalid login
> attempts to prevent brute forcing?
There are a number of ports that provide this functionality. I believe
the mo
e on amd64.
There is something about these "please continue to support 4.x"
discussions that confuses me.
The general argument has been that 4.11 support should continue because
6.2 is not at release status yet.
Are the people making this argument unaware that 6.1 and 5.5 have been
at
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> On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:58:11AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
> >
> > Are the people making this argument unaware that 6.1 and 5.
t the impression that this whole EOL issue with
4.x is partly a result of not reminding people when the EOL date for 4.x
is every 5 minutes. The result is that it's just hitting home for a lot
of people now that it's the 11th hour.
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> > I could be wrong, but I get the impression that this whole EOL issue with
> > 4.x is partly a result of not reminding people when the EOL date for
of removing the skip and/or scrub
directives to pf?
3) Are you even using pf? The PR involved is related to pf, and it
appears as if the problem was related to an incorrect pf configuration,
and _not_ a bug in FreeBSD.
Someone should follow up on that PR and see if the OP ever fixed the
pr
th diffs at every upgrade? Not the approach I
would take. And please don't top-post.
I don't remember the details of how heartbeat works, but you should be able
to set the required variables and export them into the environment prior
to calling the mysql-server script. If not, just creat
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> buildworld' fails:
groff is written in C++. If you can live without groff, there may be a
NO_GROFF knob you could tweak. However, it looks like openssl is also
written in C++ as well. If you can live without those two, it should be
doable.
I'm not sure how practical a
o wouldn't be enough for data security as this might get
> >> recovered).
> >
> > Neither would a single pass with /dev/random, but you presumably knew
> > this.
>
> Yes, I know... I would like to run 5 or more passes if it's not that
>
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> plz! go away with all your junk.
I reported it to spamcop.net ... as usual.
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> > > On 02/19/07 20:51, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 08:40:
both ends. Make absolutely sure the Procurve is set
to autoneg.
Replace the cable. If the cable is marginal, autoneg will downgrade the
speed to ensure reliability. Use a cable that you know will produce
1000baseTX because you've tested it on other systems.
Try switching out the NIC. Man
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in spamming three mailing lists with this demand. What problem are you
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_forever_. It will eventually time out. I don't know what the actual
value is, but it seems like 5 minutes or something, so it could easily
seem like it's frozen.
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>
> The place where I have come across this
Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001 10:52 AM, Mike Porter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 June 2001 07:11, you wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:07 PM, Chad R. Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> wrote:
>
> > If anyone is taking vot
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> On Wednesday 27 June 2001 09:44, Bill Moran wrote:
> > Is there a reason why you took this off the list?
> >
> my mistake (or my mailer's depending on how you look at it). If the
> maj
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> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Bill Moran wrote:
>
> > In a company, alpha testing is done by the developers or other
> > employees of the company,
>
> Once Upon A Time this was true, but no
Dave Uhring wrote:
> You seem to have missed the critical point of that paper. When the
> system goes completely haywire and either crashes or locks up so hard
> that a manual reset is required, UFS/softupdates requires a substantial
> amount of time to run fsck. If you have a very large filesys
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
>
> Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I just took a look at www.sistina.com and a web site which has its font
> > set to Arial is suspect, IMHO. If they have to use Microsoft products
> > to produce a web site..
>
> Is that the best you could come up wit
Juha Saarinen wrote:
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> On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Bill Moran wrote:
>
> > I know my opinion of Wind River has been negatively impacted by
> > the numerous spelling errors I found on their web site the first
> > time I visited.
>
> That's different though -- on
There is a way to accomplish this. It requires 2 computers.
The first is your server, the second is a terminal computer.
You never log into the actual server, but the terminal
computer is connected via serial line to the server to
act as a console. This way, you can reboot and everything
over an s
Sung Nae Cho wrote:
> One thing that makes me uncomfortable with both Linux and FreeBSD is that
> unlike Windows NT, both UNIX clones seem to be less secure for a desktop
> use. ( ** Note clones doesn't mean it's any less better than UNIX, it just
> means, it's not officially considered UNIX by OP
Why not 4.4.1-RELEASE, 4.4.2-RELEASE, etc
It's simple, to the point. Implies upgrades. Allows you to quickly determine
exactly how current a particular system is with regards to patches, and
follows long-standing conventions.
Just my $.02
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Andrew Boothman wrote:
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> [Boy do I wish I hadn'
Warner Losh wrote:
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> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill Moran writes:
> : Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this (anyone?)
>
> I've upgraded from 4.0-current to 4.3-stable about a month ago. I
> don't know why he's seeing this problem.
Hmm
klein brock wrote:
> i don't wanna see this message... does somebody know
> how ?
Is that coming from /etc/motd?
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Before I get flamed or anything, let me first say that I don't know for sure
that this is broken, but it WAS broken in 4.3-RELEASE. I have been meaning to
cut a CD and see if it's still broken in 4.4-PRERELEASE but I've been simply
overwhelmed lately.
If nobody else gets around to it first, I'll m
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> I posted a message to -hackers several days ago, complete with a kernel
> backtrace.The panic is 100% reproducible on my machine running the
> latest -stable.
>
> Does anyone care? My message to Greg Lehey was rejected by his mail server,
> but I am pretty sure
re that your ISP is using RFC-1918 addys on
their internal routing. Stupid idea, but it's become commonplace to do
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IPv6 needs to come into use soon. This internet thing is such a mess
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same as the running kernel, you won't have to wait for another crash, but can use
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free space is still 8% or not, and I don't know if anyone has even
tested the new dirpref code to see if that number has changed.
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you using? Personally,
I suspect HW problems, and I seem to recall a few months ago,
someone else with IBM HDDs complaining about the same thing. Have
there been any patches to the ata code that could affect this? If
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at full speed.
I don't remember which version of FreeBSD started to support full spped
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Did you check all 4 CDs?
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ked at this, the answer was "no, you can't
burn DVDs in FreeBSD yet"
I just send an email to Soren to see if he needs hardware to
develop with, we're ready to donate a DVD-burner to help.
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ose things that cards
usually brag about if they support.
If you have non-sharing cards trying to use a shared interrupt, it won't
work. Crashes don't surprise me under these circumstances.
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Jaime wrote:
New info for this problem:
S array.p0.s0
crashed
S array.p0.s1
up
S array.p0.s2
up
S array.p0.s3
stale
Should I just "vinum start" at the shell?
Well, at this point you've got vinum started now.
I would fix the raid problem before bothering with an fsck, if
it w
ome FreeBSD-boxes running with CPU frequency lower than 1GHz -
FreeBSD detects them correctly.
Is it some kind of misconfiguration ? Can it cause problems ?
Thanks a lot.
WBR.
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l is used in many parts of the system in 4.x, if
you don't upgrade it, you may not even be able to build 4.x, and if it does
build and install, you may find many utilities don't work.
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