Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-23, at 01:27, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-23, at 00:44, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On 2021-May-21, at 17:56, Rick Macklem wrote: >> >>> Mark Millard wrote: >>> [stuff snipped] >>>> Well, why is it that ls -R, find, and diff -

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-23, at 00:44, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-21, at 17:56, Rick Macklem wrote: > >> Mark Millard wrote: >> [stuff snipped] >>> Well, why is it that ls -R, find, and diff -r all get file >>> name problems via genet0 but diff -r gets no problem

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-21, at 17:56, Rick Macklem wrote: > Mark Millard wrote: > [stuff snipped] >> Well, why is it that ls -R, find, and diff -r all get file >> name problems via genet0 but diff -r gets no problems >> comparing the content of files that it does match up (the >

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-21, at 09:00, Rick Macklem wrote: > Mark Millard wrote: >> On 2021-May-20, at 22:19, Rick Macklem wrote: > [stuff snipped] >>> ps: I do not think that r367492 could cause this, but it would be >>>nice if you try a kernel with the r367492 patch re

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context) [RPi4B genet0 involved in problem]

2021-05-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[Looks like the RPi4B genet0 handling is involved.] On 2021-May-20, at 22:56, Mark Millard wrote: > > On 2021-May-20, at 22:19, Rick Macklem wrote: > >> Ok, so it isn't related to "soft". >> I am wondering if it is something specific to what >> &qu

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ve a preference for main vs. stable/13 vs. release/13.0.0 based? Is it okay to stick to the base version things are now based on --or do you want me to update to more recent? (That last only applies if main or stable/13 is to be put to use.) > . . . old history deleted . . . === Mark Millard mar

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[Direct drive connection to machine: no problem.] On 2021-May-20, at 21:40, Mark Millard wrote: > [main test example and main/releng/13 mixed example] > > On 2021-May-20, at 20:36, Mark Millard wrote: > >> [stable/13 test: example ends up being odder. That might >>

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[main test example and main/releng/13 mixed example] On 2021-May-20, at 20:36, Mark Millard wrote: > [stable/13 test: example ends up being odder. That might > allow eliminating some potential alternatives.] > > On 2021-May-20, at 19:38, Mark Millard wrote: >> >>

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[stable/13 test: example ends up being odder. That might allow eliminating some potential alternatives.] On 2021-May-20, at 19:38, Mark Millard wrote: > > On 2021-May-20, at 18:09, Rick Macklem wrote: >> >> Oh, one additional thing that I'll dare to top post... &

Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ebsd.org on > behalf of Rick Macklem > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 8:55 PM > To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List; Mark Millard > Subject: Re: releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs > (in a zfs file systems context) > > Mark Millard wrote: >> [I wa

releng/13 release/13.0.0 : odd/incorrect diff result over nfs (in a zfs file systems context)

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
2.13G 113G 2.13G /usr/ports I've no clue if ZFS is important to the odditity or not. The original mount command was on CA72_16Gp_ZFS: # mount -onoatime,soft 192.168.1.170:/usr/ports/ /mnt/ The network is just a local EtherNet. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.co

Fresh releng/13.0 release/13.0.0 install: "newsyslog: malformed 'at' value" messages

2021-05-06 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ewsyslog.conf.d/[!.]*.conf /usr/local/etc/newsyslog.conf.d/[!.]*.conf Specifically, the 7 lines with "@" involved under "when" get the complaints. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) __

Re: zpool list -p 's FREE vs. zfs list -p's AVAIL ? FREE-AVAIL == 6_675_374_080 (199G zroot pool)

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-5, at 17:01, Yuri Pankov wrote: > Mark Millard via freebsd-current wrote: >> Context: >> >> # gpart show -pl da0 >> => 40 468862048da0 GPT (224G) >> 40 532480 da0p1 efiboot0 (260M) >> 532520 2

zpool list -p 's FREE vs. zfs list -p's AVAIL ? FREE-AVAIL == 6_675_374_080 (199G zroot pool)

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
19:52:14 2021 config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 da0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in e

Re: ZFS rename with associated snapshot present: odd error message

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-5, at 05:28, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-5, at 02:47, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> On 05/05/2021 01:59, Mark Millard via freebsd-current wrote: >>> I had a: >>> # zfs list -tall >>> NAME USED AVAIL

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [aarch64 test did not reproduce the issue]

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-4, at 20:26, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-4, at 13:38, Mark Millard wrote: > >> [The first buidlworld is still in process. So while waiting . . .] >> >> On 2021-May-4, at 10:31, Mark Millard wrote: >> >>> I probably know why

Re: ZFS rename with associated snapshot present: odd error message

2021-05-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-5, at 02:47, Andriy Gapon wrote: > On 05/05/2021 01:59, Mark Millard via freebsd-current wrote: >> I had a: >> # zfs list -tall >> NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT >> . . . >> zroot/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA72

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [aarch64 test did not reproduce the issue]

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-4, at 13:38, Mark Millard wrote: > [The first buidlworld is still in process. So while waiting . . .] > > On 2021-May-4, at 10:31, Mark Millard wrote: > >> I probably know why the huge count of differences this time >> unlike the original report . . . &

ZFS rename with associated snapshot present: odd error message

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
For reference: # uname -apKU FreeBSD CA72_4c8G_ZFS 13.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE #0 releng/13.0-n244733-ea31abc261ff-dirty: Thu Apr 29 21:53:20 PDT 2021 root@CA72_4c8G_ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/13_0R-CA72-nodbg-clang/usr/13_0R-src/arm64.aarch64/sys/GENERIC-NODBG-CA72 arm64 aarch64 1300139 1300

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [Ignore recent test: -dirty vs. checked-in usage difference]

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[The first buidlworld is still in process. So while waiting . . .] On 2021-May-4, at 10:31, Mark Millard wrote: > I probably know why the huge count of differences this time > unlike the original report . . . > > Previously I built based on a checked-in branch as part of > m

diffoscope's odd UnicodeDecodeError error message: reason found

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
line 293, in load return loads(fp.read(), File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/codecs.py", line 504, in read newchars, decodedbytes = self.decode(data, self.errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xb7 in position 18: invalid start byte Not exactly an obvious error me

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files? [Ignore recent test: -dirty vs. checked-in usage difference]

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-uns

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[Just adding readelf -S info since it seems to show more.] On 2021-May-4, at 10:01, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-4, at 08:51, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On 2021-May-4, at 06:01, Ed Maste wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 22:26, Mark Millard wrote: >>

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-4, at 08:51, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-4, at 06:01, Ed Maste wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 22:26, Mark Millard wrote: >>> >>> But I'll note that I've built and stalled py37-diffoscope >>> (new to me). A ba

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-4, at 06:01, Ed Maste wrote: > On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 22:26, Mark Millard wrote: >> >> But I'll note that I've built and stalled py37-diffoscope >> (new to me). A basic quick test showed that it reports: >> >> W: diffoscope.main: Fuzzy-

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-3, at 21:27, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-3, at 19:26, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On 2021-May-3, at 10:51, Mark Millard wrote: >> >>> On 2021-May-3, at 07:47, Ed Maste wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 02:

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-3, at 19:26, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-3, at 10:51, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On 2021-May-3, at 07:47, Ed Maste wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 02:50, Mark Millard via freebsd-current >>> wrote: >>>> >>>

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-3, at 10:51, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2021-May-3, at 07:47, Ed Maste wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 02:50, Mark Millard via freebsd-current >> wrote: >>> >>> Files /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-chroot/sbin/ping and >>> /usr

Re: FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-May-3, at 07:47, Ed Maste wrote: > On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 02:50, Mark Millard via freebsd-current > wrote: >> >> Files /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-chroot/sbin/ping and >> /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-poud/sbin/ping differ >> Files /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/1

FYI: WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= problem for some files?

2021-04-28 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ht notice and care about such differences. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send an

Re: (D29934) Reorder commented steps in UPDATING following sequential order. (was: etcupdate -p vs. root on zfs (and bectl use and such): no /usr/src/etc/master.passwd (for example))

2021-04-25 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Apr-25, at 08:14, Graham Perrin wrote: > On 23/04/2021 08:39, Mark Millard via freebsd-current wrote: > >> [3] > > > With regard to mounting ZFS file systems in single user mode > > What's currently footnote 3 will pr

Despite the documentation, "etcupdate extract" handles -D destdir (and its contribution to the default workdir)

2021-04-24 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
j/DESTDIRs/13_0R-CA7-for-chroot/var/db/etcupdate/ I have not checked on if "etcupdate build" has a similar issue vs. not. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing

https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/?C=M&O=D messed up dates and HASHID-only use make things extremely hard to find "in time order"

2021-04-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
on would be more independent of dates possibly being touched on the file server and would make time ordered finding of things (such as for build-less approximate bisecting) far more reasonable. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) _

Is stable/13 going to start getting snapshot builds?

2021-04-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
Is stable/13 going to start getting snapshot builds? (As stands, main , stable/12 , and stable/11 are getting them.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https

etcupdate -p vs. root on zfs (and bectl use and such): no /usr/src/etc/master.passwd (for example)

2021-04-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ng / writable at this stage either.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send an

13.0-RELEASE bsdinstall failure : looked for MANIFEST in wrong place (not with *.txz files)

2021-04-16 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26552108 Apr 9 07:39:21 2021 kernel.txz # ls -Tla /usr/freebsd-dist/ ls: /usr/freebsd-dist/: No such file or directory NOTE: creating /usr/freebsd-dist/ with a copy of the MANIFEST file in it was enough to get past this issue: it is doing Archive Extraction now. === Mark Mi

powerpc64le is missing in: https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/

2021-03-30 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
When I looked at https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ I noticed that "64-bit little-endian PowerPC" powerpc64le is not listed. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org ma

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
as I have 20G of RAM and am pretty close to no swap space > activity, but, of course, paging does occur. With 20 GiBytes of RAM, what is going on at the time that leads to paging activity? I'm thinking of just untarring the firefox file, not building firefox or such. Can you test such an unta

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-15 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Mar-15, at 14:57, Kevin Oberman wrote: > Responses in-line. > > On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 3:09 PM Mark Millard wrote: > >> On 2021-Mar-14, at 11:09, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> >> > . . . >> > >> > Seems to only occur on large r/w

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-14 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
t; switched to a different workspace from ctrl-alt-right and did a clean > shutdown. > > Do I also have a graphics issue? Examining log files show no indication that > anything was happening. SMART shows no errors and reasonable values for > everything. No indication of a HW problem. Th

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
sed on more recent stable/13. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253968 comment 4 has some more notes about the context. The "make extract" for firefox likely is not as complicated as the portsnap extract example's execution structure. Might be something to keep an ey

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Mar-4, at 14:16, Mark Millard wrote: > Christos Chatzaras chris at cretaforce.gr wrote on > Thu Mar 4 21:41:01 UTC 2021 : > > >> After finding slow filesystem operations with 13.0-BETA2 I did more tests. >> >> All tests done with same hardware (Se

Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ages received > 0 signals received > 385527 voluntary context switches >369 involuntary context switches > > -- > > Differences between 13.0 and 14-CURRENT maybe related to debugging features. > > But 13.0-BETA4 is slower than 12.2. Does someon

Re: FreeBSD 13.0-BETA2 and slow IO

2021-03-02 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
s are seeing? I'll note that someone submitted: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2021-March/100124.html against 13.0-BETA4 for the UFS journaled soft-updates related performance issue(s). They compared something to 12.1-RELEASE for illustration. === Mark Millard mar

Re: How do I know if my 13-stable has security patches?

2021-02-25 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ion of an alternate net Michael Tuexen 5 days 1 -36/+49 * | sctp: clear a pointer to a net which will be removed . . . (all the prior history) . . . and an empty vs. non-empty status is easier to tell apart. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Ma

Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Feb-23, at 18:08, Chris wrote: > On 2021-02-23 17:42, Mark Millard wrote: >> (Warner is only CC'd here.) >> Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com wrote on >> Wed Feb 24 01:04:13 UTC 2021 : >>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris wrote: >>> > G

Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
table/12/ material between releng/12.1@r354233 and releng/12.2@r366954 .) Since you did not provide the output from the likes of "uname -apKU" (or some rough equivalent) I've no direct clue which version you were trying. But you should be able to compare to the above to see which r

Re: git to svn update frequency ?

2021-02-18 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Feb-18, at 05:33, Mark Millard wrote: > mike tancsa mike at sentex.net wrote on > Thu Feb 18 10:33:14 UTC 2021 : > >> On 2/17/2021 12:10 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 6:05 AM, mike tancsa wrote: >>>>I noticed on a box that

Re: git to svn update frequency ?

2021-02-18 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
//cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/12.0 shows the most recent releng/12.0 in git is from 2021-Jan-28: Commit message (Expand) Author Age Files Lines Add UPDATING entries and bump version.releng/12.0 Gordon Tetlow 2020-01-28 2 -1/+17 Are you confusing stable/12 and rele

Re: where to upgrade 12-stable now, svn still, or git?

2021-02-17 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Feb-12, at 23:03, Mark Millard wrote: > Dewayne Geraghty dewayne at heuristicsystems.com.au wrote on > Sat Feb 13 06:04:52 UTC 2021 : > >> The main list we used was: >> >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-12/ >> >> b

Re: where to upgrade 12-stable now, svn still, or git?

2021-02-12 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
e/12.2.0 tag.) Of course, for 12 there still is: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/12.2.0/ https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/12.2/ as a svn side view of things that has the modern cross references to git included. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.c

Re: where to upgrade 12-stable now, svn still, or git?

2021-02-12 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ore 13 and so likely will be able to avoid the issue myself.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsub

Re: where to upgrade 12-stable now, svn still, or git?

2021-02-12 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
D QUOTE Matching up stable revisions with releng/12.3/ or release/12.3.0/ in the future would be easier starting from svn material in the first place and would provide identification for git as well. But I've no clue if such would be important to what you might need to do with 12. === Mark M

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-29 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2020-Jun-29, at 14:12, Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/29/20, Mark Millard wrote: >> [I'm now subscribed so my messages should go through to >> the list.] >> >> On 2020-Jun-29, at 06:17, Donald Wilde wrote: >> >>> . . . >> >> You r

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-29 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[I'm now subscribed so my messages should go through to the list.] On 2020-Jun-29, at 06:17, Donald Wilde wrote: > [adding maintainers of synth and ccache] > > On 6/29/20, Mark Millard wrote: >> Based on "small arm system" context experiments >> mostly .

Re: How to boot from GPT partition without "bootme" attribute?

2018-10-30 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
s like /boot/loader.conf having something like: vfs.root.mountfrom='ufs:/dev/gpt/MyRoot' to control where things are booted from. > If I have MBR, I could override "active" slice in boot0 MBR loader > interactively. > > Is it analogous feature for GPT? === Ma

What will be tier 1 for 12.0-Release?

2018-10-24 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
in the Tier-2 support package sets list as well. Technically the reported lists are from: pkg0.isc.freebsd.org === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https

Re: head -r338804 boots threadripper 1950X fine; head -r338810+ do not; -r338807 seems implicated

2018-10-22 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[I' unable to reproduce the under-Hyper-V early kernel crash for WITH_ZFS= (implicit) build that includes the for-loaders patch I was given to try.] On 2018-Oct-22, at 10:01 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > [I will note the the loader problem has been shown to > not be involved in the ker

Re: head -r338804 boots threadripper 1950X fine; head -r338810+ do not; -r338807 seems implicated

2018-10-22 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[I will note the the loader problem has been shown to not be involved in the kernel problem that this "Subject:" was originally for.] On 2018-Oct-22, at 9:26 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 6:39 AM Mark Millard wrote: >> On 2018-Oct-22, at 4:07 AM,

Re: head -r338804 boots threadripper 1950X fine; head -r338810+ do not; -r338807 seems implicated

2018-10-22 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2018-Oct-22, at 4:07 AM, Toomas Soome wrote: > On 22 Oct 2018, at 13:58, Mark Millard wrote: >> >> On 2018-Oct-22, at 2:27 AM, Toomas Soome wrote: >>> >>>> On 22 Oct 2018, at 06:30, Warner Losh wrote: >>>> >>

Re: head -r338804 boots threadripper 1950X fine; head -r338810+ do not; -r338807 seems implicated

2018-10-22 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2018-Oct-22, at 2:27 AM, Toomas Soome wrote: > >> On 22 Oct 2018, at 06:30, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:28 PM Warner Losh wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 8:57 PM Mark Millard via freebsd-stable

Re: head -r338804 boots threadripper 1950X fine; head -r338810+ do not; -r338807 seems implicated

2018-10-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2018-Oct-21, at 8:30 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:28 PM Warner Losh wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 8:57 PM Mark Millard via freebsd-stable > wrote: >> [I built based on WITHOUT_ZFS= for other reasons. But, >> after installing the build,

Re: head -r338804 boots threadripper 1950X fine; head -r338810+ do not; -r338807 seems implicated

2018-10-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[I built based on WITHOUT_ZFS= for other reasons. But, after installing the build, Hyper-V based boots are working.] On 2018-Oct-20, at 2:09 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2018-Oct-20, at 1:39 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > >> I attempted to jump from head -r334014 to -r339076 >>

Re: head -r339076's boot loader fails to boot threadripper 1950X system (BTX halted); an earlier version works [ WITHOUT_ZFS= fixes it ]

2018-10-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[Building and installing based on WITHOUT_ZFS= allows the resulting loader to work correctly on the 1950X.] On 2018-Oct-21, at 12:05 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2018-Oct-20, at 10:32 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:04 PM Mark Millard wrote: >> [I

Re: head -r339076's boot loader fails to boot threadripper 1950X system (BTX halted); an earlier version works [ -r336532 broke it ]

2018-10-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2018-Oct-20, at 10:32 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:04 PM Mark Millard wrote: > [I found what change lead to the 1950X boot crashing > with BTX halted.] > >> On 2018-Oct-20, at 12:44 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >> >> > [Adding some

Re: head -r339076's boot loader fails to boot threadripper 1950X system (BTX halted); an earlier version works [ -r336532 broke it ]

2018-10-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[I found what change lead to the 1950X boot crashing with BTX halted.] On 2018-Oct-20, at 12:44 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > [Adding some vintage information for a loader > that allowed a native boot.] > > On 2018-Oct-20, at 4:00 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > >> I attemp

Re: head -r339076's boot loader fails to boot threadripper 1950X system (BTX halted); an earlier version works

2018-10-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[Adding some vintage information for a loader that allowed a native boot.] On 2018-Oct-20, at 4:00 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > I attempted to jump from head -r334014 to -r339076 > on a threadripper 1950X board and the native > FreeBSD boot failed very early. (Hyper-V use of > the sa

head -r339076's boot loader fails to boot threadripper 1950X system (BTX halted); an earlier version works

2018-10-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
e board is a GIGABYTE X399 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev 1.0). It has 96 GiBytes of ECC RAM, just 6 DIMMs installed. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.f

Re: head -r338804 boots threadripper 1950X fine; head -r338810+ do not; -r338807 seems implicated

2018-10-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2018-Oct-20, at 1:39 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > I attempted to jump from head -r334014 to -r339076 > on a threadripper 1950X board and the boot fails. > This is both native booting and under Hyper-V, > same machine and root file system in both cases. I did my investigation u

head -r338804 boots threadripper 1950X fine; head -r338810+ do not; -r338807 seems implicated

2018-10-20 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
88810 would be unlikely contributors. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to &

Re: Heads up: OFED build by default

2018-08-07 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ed if C11 was not enabled (e.g. via -std=c99), so this also fixes compile failures if a modern version of GCC was used with -std=c11 but with FreeBSD's instead of GCC's and this change fixes that case as well. Reported by: Mark Millard Reviewed by: kib D

Re: zfs problems after rebuilding system [SOLVED]

2018-03-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ependent. You may have no issues with some > software+hardware combination and long timeouts with same software > but different hardware. Dimitry's example is for changing the software for the same(?) hardware, if I understand right. (FreeBSD vs. some Linux distribution.) (?: He did say

Re: 50 percent swap used, but "ps auxww" output shows no processes swapped out

2018-02-03 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
essing some at the intended results for default tuning --and that you probably are using default tuning.) So the in-use swapspace is likely from one or more existing processes that did page-outs earlier. (Expect my descriptions to be over simplified, but hopefully pointing in the right general di

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-27 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
into sleep state, before sleeping, check if * thread was removed from umtx queue. */ static inline int umtxq_sleep(struct umtx_q *uq, const char *wmesg, struct abs_timeout *abstime) . . . Note: I'm guessing that /usr/src/sys/dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_dbg_fw_funcs.c is not involved. ===

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-24 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
r the speed of its internal interconnect-fabric's operation. I'll note that, if one goes through the referenced Linux exchanges about this, Ryzen Threadripper's examples are also reported to have the problem. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com (

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2018-Jan-21, at 12:17 PM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 20 Jan, Mark Millard wrote: >> Don Lewis truckman at FreeBSD.org wrote on >> Sat Jan 20 02:35:40 UTC 2018 : >> >>> The only real problem with the old CPUs is the random segfault problem >>> and some othe

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-21 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
eebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=221029 comment #103 on 2017-Oct-09): QUOTE The ghc build failure seems to be gone after upgrading the a more recent 12.0-CURRENT. I will try to bisect for the fix when I have a chance. END QUOTE Did that not pan out? Did you conclude it was hardware-context specific?

Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

2018-01-17 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
ing boards). I've only tried the 1950X with a native FreeBSD boot once (a fair time ago). It showed a lockup problem fairly quickly (power switch/plug time). I've never seen such (or anything analogous) under Hyper-V with extensive use. It does not look like I'll be investigating n

11.1-STABLE for amd64: jumping from -r326142 to -r327228: all_subdir_cxgbe/t4_firmware failed to build

2017-12-26 Thread Mark Millard
tions # WITH_BOOT= WITH_LIB32= # WITHOUT_GCC_BOOTSTRAP= WITHOUT_GCC= WITHOUT_GCC_IS_CC= WITHOUT_GNUCXX= # NO_WERROR= #WERROR= MALLOC_PRODUCTION= # WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD= WITH_DEBUG_FILES= Ryzen Threadripper 1950X HW but FreeBSD -r327142 running under a Windows 10 Pro Hyper-V virtual machine. 110592 MB of RAM assigned. 29 virtual processors assigned. Physical hard disk used, not a virtual one. === Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: ryzen issues?

2017-12-15 Thread Mark Millard
ant for some system --and they were not reporting such hangups, nor did they indicate running under any hypervisors. So, something more local-context-special seems to be involved. === Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing

stable/11 -r326142 (e.g.): "cat /dev/null | zstd --stdout" gets "/usr/bin/zstd: Undefined symbol "stat@FBSD_1.5"

2017-11-26 Thread Mark Millard
5 for some reason. Note: Using /rescue/zstd avoids this issue. === Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-

Re: 11.1 running on HyperV hn interface hangs

2017-09-06 Thread Mark Millard
achine's 16 hardware threads to FreeBSD and doing buildworld buildkernel and poudriere based port builds. (Windows 10 Pro not being otherwise busy.) === Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.fre

Re: svn commit: r322715 - in stable/11: etc/mtree lib/libcasper lib/libcasper/services lib/libcasper/services/cap_dns lib/libcasper/services/cap_dns/tests lib/libcasper/services/cap_grp lib/libcaspe

2017-08-29 Thread Mark Millard
Nevermind, stupid mistake on my part: armv6 was not actually updated yet. > On 2017-Aug-29, at 8:42 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > > installworld for -r323012 is getting things like (at least with the likes of > -j14): > > --- pwd_test.install --- > --- _proginstall --- >

Re: svn commit: r322715 - in stable/11: etc/mtree lib/libcasper lib/libcasper/services lib/libcasper/services/cap_dns lib/libcasper/services/cap_dns/tests lib/libcasper/services/cap_grp lib/libcaspe

2017-08-29 Thread Mark Millard
Last Changed Rev: 323012 === Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: svn commit: r322875 - head/sys/dev/nvme

2017-08-28 Thread Mark Millard
On 2017-Aug-27, at 11:54 PM, Ed Schouten wrote: > 2017-08-25 14:53 GMT+02:00 Ed Schouten : >> 2017-08-25 9:46 GMT+02:00 Mark Millard : >>> It appears that at least 11.1-STABLE -r322807 does not handle >>> -std=c++98 styles of use of _Static_assert for g++7 in tha

Re: svn commit: r322875 - head/sys/dev/nvme

2017-08-25 Thread Mark Millard
On 2017-Aug-25, at 12:14 AM, David Chisnall wrote: > On 25 Aug 2017, at 07:32, Mark Millard wrote: >> >> As I remember _Static_assert is from C11, not >> the older C99. > > In pre-C11 dialects of C, _Static_assert is an identifier reserved for the > implement

Re: svn commit: r322875 - head/sys/dev/nvme

2017-08-24 Thread Mark Millard
the C11 _Static_assert, with or > without the include, going well outside the C++ language definition. > > . . . > > Fixed in r297299 . (The context was a C++ file head/contrib/libcxxrt/guard.cc so C++'s static_assert was used instead and -std=c++11 was added for the libra

UNAME_r () and OSVERSION (1101501) do not agree on major version number , which poudriere bulk rejects as a combination.

2017-08-13 Thread Mark Millard
17h45m28s [00:00:05] Loading MOVED make: "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" line 1177: UNAME_r () and OSVERSION (1101501) do not agree on major version number. [00:00:06] Error: Error looking up pre-build ports vars [00:00:06] Cleaning up [00:00:09] Unmounting file systems And at this point we are

Re: stack_guard hardening bsdinstall option in STABLE and 11.1

2017-07-17 Thread Mark Millard
rst public description of the problem's details.) I agree that you did not get an answer for the other part: > I simply asked if it's safe to assume the sysctl to be an integer in > 11.1 I've not gone through any draft 11.1-release code

Re: lang/gcc* package builds vs. release/11.0.1/ and the future release/11.1.0 because of vm_ooffset_t and vm_pindex_t changes and how the lang/gcc* work

2017-06-29 Thread Mark Millard
On 2017-Jun-29, at 3:10 AM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > Am 28. Juni 2017 22:38:52 GMT+08:00 schrieb Mark Millard dsl-only.net>: >> A primary test is building lang/gcc5-devel under release/11.0.1 >> and then using it under stable/11 or some draft of release/11.1.0 . > >

Re: lang/gcc* package builds vs. release/11.0.1/ and the future release/11.1.0 because of vm_ooffset_t and vm_pindex_t changes and how the lang/gcc* work

2017-06-28 Thread Mark Millard
l need whatever technique is used. Some, such as lang/gcc6-aux, need more done because of binary bootstrap materials being downloaded and used and so the build of lang/gcc6-aux gets the problem and fails before staging happens: the binary-bootstrap materials need to avoid the adjusted headers th

Re: lang/gcc* package builds vs. release/11.0.1/ and the future release/11.1.0 because of vm_ooffset_t and vm_pindex_t changes and how the lang/gcc* work

2017-06-26 Thread Mark Millard
ng which specific handling needs to be made. But the vm_ooffset_t and vm_pindex_t changes did not even make the UPDATING notes. Right now things look to have the worst combination for lang/gcc* when release/11.1.0/ becomes official: lang/gcc* 's break without notification or suggestion of a workaro

lang/gcc* package builds vs. release/11.0.1/ and the future release/11.1.0 because of vm_ooffset_t and vm_pindex_t changes and how the lang/gcc* work

2017-06-24 Thread Mark Millard
area: 10.x continues to get separate lang/gcc* package builds from 11.x and later. No problem for this context as far as I know. Note: To simplify I choose to not be explicit about what authors wrote what original text. If that becomes an issue, it is correctable. Blame me for

Re: GCC + FreeBSD 11.0 Stable - stat.h does not have vm_ooffset_t definition

2017-05-01 Thread Mark Millard
are known to already be gcc compliant). This still leaves the limits.h and gsystemlimits.h and syslimits.h code in place but does block most of the activity. === Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://li

Re: arm64 fork/swap data corruptions: A ~110 line C program demonstrating an example (Pine64+ 2GB context) [Corrected subject: arm64!]

2017-03-27 Thread Mark Millard
On 2017-Mar-21, at 7:21 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2017-Mar-18, at 9:10 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > >> >> On 2017-Mar-18, at 5:53 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >> >>> A new, significant discovery follows. . . >>> >>> While checking out use

Re: arm64 fork/swap data corruptions: A ~110 line C program demonstrating an example (Pine64+ 2GB context) [Corrected subject: arm64!]

2017-03-21 Thread Mark Millard
On 2017-Mar-18, at 9:10 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > > On 2017-Mar-18, at 5:53 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > >> A new, significant discovery follows. . . >> >> While checking out use of procstat -v I ran >> into the following common property for the 3 >>

Re: Unicode strageness with lldb

2017-03-20 Thread Mark Millard
those ssh sessions (from a macOS environment). I discovered that if I typed ^C it would output a new prompt and start taking/displaying input normally. I've not had such an issue in a while. I never managed to isolate what contributed to it happening. === Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net

Re: arm64 fork/swap data corruptions: A ~110 line C program demonstrating an example (Pine64+ 2GB context) [Corrected subject: arm64!]

2017-03-18 Thread Mark Millard
On 2017-Mar-18, at 5:53 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > A new, significant discovery follows. . . > > While checking out use of procstat -v I ran > into the following common property for the 3 > programs that I looked at: > > A) My small test program that fails for > a dyn

Re: arm64 fork/swap data corruptions: A ~110 line C program demonstrating an example (Pine64+ 2GB context) [Corrected subject: arm64!]

2017-03-18 Thread Mark Millard
y: the small allocation size also matters. Be warned that I can not eliminate the possibility that the trashing changed what region of memory it trashed for larger allocations or when tcache is disabled. === Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net ___ f

Re: arm64 fork/swap data corruptions: A ~110 line C program demonstrating an example (Pine64+ 2GB context) [Corrected subject: arm64!]

2017-03-18 Thread Mark Millard
[Summary: I've now tested on a rpi3 in addition to a pine64+ 2GB. Both contexts show the problem.] On 2017-Mar-16, at 2:07 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2017-Mar-15, at 11:07 PM, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> Mark Millard wrote: >> >>> [Something strange happened

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