Re: *_enable="YES" behavior is bogus

2002-02-01 Thread Garance A Drosihn
Oh. Damn. Someone *added* freebsd-current to this thread without removing freebsd-stable. Several people have requested that we stop discussing this on freebsd-stable, and I *thought* I was only sending my recent messages to the one mailing list. I do not particularly care which mailing list t

Re: *_enable="YES" behavior is bogus

2002-02-01 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:36 PM +0100 2/1/02, Erik Trulsson wrote: >Consider that the actual code in the various rc* start scripts is >in most cases of the form: > >if foo_enable==yes > do stuff >else > do nothing Let me approach this from a different angle. Several people have tried to argue this by proposing v

Re: *_enable="YES" behavior is bogus

2002-02-01 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:36 PM +0100 2/1/02, Erik Trulsson wrote: >Consider that the actual code in the various rc* start scripts is >in most cases of the form: > >if foo_enable==yes > do stuff >else > do nothing The RC scripts are starting up in a "known" environment (loosely speaking). Enough is known about t

Re: *_enable="YES" behavior is bogus

2002-01-30 Thread Mike Meyer
[Replies pointed to -current, where this is relevant.] Paul Fardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> types: > When the rc.conf file includes > foo_enable="NO" > it's right to expect that the system will operate like a system that does > not > have foo installed. So you think that if I install a syslog f

Re: *_enable="YES" behavior is bogus

2002-01-30 Thread Paul Fardy
On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 11:40 PM, Mark Woodson wrote: > I don't feel that the current system needs changing. It's my thought > that if you go to the extra trouble of compiling ipfw or ipf into the > kernel, then you want it and you get it. No matter what you've set in rc. > conf.

Re: *_enable="YES" behavior is bogus

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Smith
> If you build a kernel without INET, the following switches don't > result in any daemons being started if you set them to YES: > > syslog_enable > sendmail_enable > lpd_enable I think you are confused. These will all start regardless of whether INET is enabled. > These are all things that