Re: Build sequence (was Re: mergemaster theory (was: Re:/etc/defaults/rc.conf theory) )

2002-04-30 Thread Lamont Granquist
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Mike Meyer wrote: > What's missed here is that running an old kernel and a new userland is > more likely to screw things up. In fact this is now broken if you try to build -current on a -stable box. You can't run the -current userland on a -stable kernel to do an install an

Re: mergemaster theory (was: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory)

2002-04-24 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > > Yes, but the problem I usually have is twofold: I usually run > > mergemaster in single-user mode, > You don't have to do that. Nothing you install in /etc (except > hosts.allow

Re: [resend] packaging base (was: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory)

2002-04-24 Thread The Anarcat
On Wed Apr 24, 2002 at 12:17:37AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Anarcat ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > On Tue Apr 23, 2002 at 11:07:18PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Anarcat ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > > > The main issues I see about pa

Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory

2002-04-23 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Sierchio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > Depends on the user. My rc.conf has perhaps 15 lines and some of those > > are simply there because the OpenSSH and bind ports in STABLE tend to > > lag quite a bit behind the release and the port versions are installed > > in

Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory

2002-04-20 Thread D J Hawkey Jr
On Apr 20, at 02:59 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Jan Grant wrote: > > > On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Calvin NG wrote: > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I believe when people say copy rc.conf from /etc/defaults/ into > > > /etc/, and go throught it line by line, they really mean, >

Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory

2002-04-20 Thread Andy Farkas
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Doug Barton wrote: > ... so the one left to discuss > is inetd. At this point changing the default back seems to be the most > reasonable course of action, even though everything in /etc/inetd.conf is > off by default. There is nothing to discuss. Leave everything off in /et

Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory

2002-04-20 Thread Doug Barton
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > My .02: > > There seems to be a few recent situations where fundamental changes > were made in a way that didn't easily slipstream into the stable > upgrading process. (ie sendmail changes and the new users necessary, > which bit me. I think the pro

Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory

2002-04-20 Thread Philip J. Koenig
My .02: There seems to be a few recent situations where fundamental changes were made in a way that didn't easily slipstream into the stable upgrading process. (ie sendmail changes and the new users necessary, which bit me. I think the process of adding those users should have been either in

/etc/defaults/rc.conf theory

2002-04-19 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Kevin Oberman wrote: > I really hate to see the suggestion that people copy files from > /etc/defaults to /etc. This really breaks the paradigm of having only > changes in defaults in /etc so that defaults can be changed with a > normal system update. But that was ne