Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-11-02 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:28:43AM + I heard the voice of Alex Zbyslaw, and lo! it spake thus: > > In addition, considering an *option* to simply not have cat-ed > manual pages (for people with machines fast enough to just not care, > or who have machines where you just don't read man pages of

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-11-02 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 01:43:41PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: Show me the positives that outweights the negatives and I'm on your side. Why do you think we're on different sides to begin with? I've not advocated removing catman

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-11-01 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 01:43:41PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: > > Show me the positives that outweights the negatives and I'm on your > side. Why do you think we're on different sides to begin with? I've not advocated removing catman capability, or denied that

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-11-01 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 02:30:45PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08:31PM +0100 I heard the voice of > Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > I don't completly agree. > > Many people forget that FreeBSD is used on slow embedded systems as > > well and I prefer h

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread jonathan michaels
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 02:30:45PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08:31PM +0100 I heard the voice of > Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > I don't completly agree. > > Many people forget that FreeBSD is used on slow embedded systems as > > well and I prefer h

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:39:23AM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:23:58AM + I heard the voice of > Alex Zbyslaw, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > Of course, with modern systems where nroff-ing a man page takes > > negligible time and system resources, it could also

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08:31PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: > > I don't completly agree. > Many people forget that FreeBSD is used on slow embedded systems as > well and I prefer having manpoages there as well. Oh, I don't argue that there are cases where ca

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-30 18:26, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are also a couple of manpages with references to very long URIs, > which cannot be wrapped by nroff in a reasonable line-length: > > ng_netflow.4 > bluetooth.device.conf.5 > > I don't think we can easily fix these,

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:23:58AM + I heard the voice of Alex Zbyslaw, and lo! it spake thus: > > Of course, with modern systems where nroff-ing a man page takes > negligible time and system resources, it could also be argued that > cat-ed man pages should be a thing of the past :-) Quite.

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-30 14:16, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neat. The base-system manpages which have errors or warnings are just a > few of the hundreds we have. I just finished running a slightly > modified version of `/etc/periodic/weekly/330.catman', which uses > `catman -v' and the l

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-30 13:32, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-May/040648.html > > Very interesting. Maybe we can tweak 330.catman to display the filename > of the manpage which causes each error. Then we could use the periodic > script

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-29 12:18, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:24:47PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2007-10-28 12:54, Andrew Lankford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could > > > disable that "featur

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-10-28 12:54, Andrew Lankford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could disable that "feature". Oh well. I'll delete it all and rebuild it again if needed. Thanks! Ah, that's it then :) My usual `in

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Doug Barton
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Andrew Lankford wrote: Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. I'll try posting this one more time. :) Before you installworld, just do 'rm -r /usr/share/man/' and you won't ever have that problem. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Jeremy Chadwick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > There's a periodic script (/etc/periodic/weekly/330.catman) which > rebuilds all the catman pages for you. However, it makes an immense > mess of your weekly system mails due to all the manpage/nroff > formatting mistakes. Have a look: > > http://l

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-29 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:24:47PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-10-28 12:54, Andrew Lankford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could > > disable that "feature". Oh well. I'll delete it all and rebuild it > > again if needed. T

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-28 12:54, Andrew Lankford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could > disable that "feature". Oh well. I'll delete it all and rebuild it > again if needed. Thanks! Ah, that's it then :) My usual `installworld' steps include this t

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Danny Braniss
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:37:45PM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: > > Thanks for replying, but once again I've miscommunicated the issue. I > > meant that MAKEDEV.8 is in /usr/src/share/man/man8/, and the > > modification time is Oct 13th, recent, which suggests to me that it's still > > in the

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Andrew Lankford
Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could disable that "feature". Oh well. I'll delete it all and rebuild it again if needed. Thanks! Andrew Lankford Danny Braniss wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:37:45PM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: Thanks for replying, but once

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Andrew Lankford
Danny Braniss wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:37:45PM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: Thanks for replying, but once again I've miscommunicated the issue. I meant that MAKEDEV.8 is in /usr/src/share/man/man8/, and the modification time is Oct 13th, recent, which suggests to me that it's still i

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:37:45PM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: > Thanks for replying, but once again I've miscommunicated the issue. I > meant that MAKEDEV.8 is in /usr/src/share/man/man8/, and the > modification time is Oct 13th, recent, which suggests to me that it's still > in the 7.0-BETA1

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Andrew Lankford
8 Oct 2007, Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:03:33AM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: I just noticed that /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8 is still in the FreeBSD-7 tree. Is this intentional? It still says that MAKEDEV is located in /dev and mentions MAKEDEV.local as well. C

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Doug Barton
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:03:33AM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: I just noticed that /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8 is still in the FreeBSD-7 tree. Is this intentional? It still says that MAKEDEV is located in /dev and mentions MAKEDEV.local as

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Christian Brueffer
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:03:33AM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: > I just noticed that /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8 is still in the > FreeBSD-7 tree. Is this intentional? It still says that MAKEDEV is > located in /dev and mentions MAKEDEV.local as well. > Could it be that you

/usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-27 Thread Andrew Lankford
I just noticed that /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8 is still in the FreeBSD-7 tree. Is this intentional? It still says that MAKEDEV is located in /dev and mentions MAKEDEV.local as well. Just wondering. Andrew Lankford ___ freebsd-stable