Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-11-02 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 01:43:41PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: Show me the positives that outweights the negatives and I'm on your side. Why do you think we're on different sides to begin with? I've not advocated removing catman

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-11-02 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:28:43AM + I heard the voice of Alex Zbyslaw, and lo! it spake thus: In addition, considering an *option* to simply not have cat-ed manual pages (for people with machines fast enough to just not care, or who have machines where you just don't read man pages often

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-11-01 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 02:30:45PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08:31PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: I don't completly agree. Many people forget that FreeBSD is used on slow embedded systems as well and I prefer having

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-11-01 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 01:43:41PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: Show me the positives that outweights the negatives and I'm on your side. Why do you think we're on different sides to begin with? I've not advocated removing catman capability, or denied that

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:23:58AM + I heard the voice of Alex Zbyslaw, and lo! it spake thus: Of course, with modern systems where nroff-ing a man page takes negligible time and system resources, it could also be argued that cat-ed man pages should be a thing of the past :-) Quite. The

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-30 18:26, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are also a couple of manpages with references to very long URIs, which cannot be wrapped by nroff in a reasonable line-length: ng_netflow.4 bluetooth.device.conf.5 I don't think we can easily fix these, without

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08:31PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: I don't completly agree. Many people forget that FreeBSD is used on slow embedded systems as well and I prefer having manpoages there as well. Oh, I don't argue that there are cases where

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:39:23AM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:23:58AM + I heard the voice of Alex Zbyslaw, and lo! it spake thus: Of course, with modern systems where nroff-ing a man page takes negligible time and system resources, it could also be

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-31 Thread jonathan michaels
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 02:30:45PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08:31PM +0100 I heard the voice of Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: I don't completly agree. Many people forget that FreeBSD is used on slow embedded systems as well and I prefer having

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Jeremy Chadwick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There's a periodic script (/etc/periodic/weekly/330.catman) which rebuilds all the catman pages for you. However, it makes an immense mess of your weekly system mails due to all the manpage/nroff formatting mistakes. Have a look:

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Doug Barton
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Andrew Lankford wrote: Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. I'll try posting this one more time. :) Before you installworld, just do 'rm -r /usr/share/man/' and you won't ever have that problem. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-10-28 12:54, Andrew Lankford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could disable that feature. Oh well. I'll delete it all and rebuild it again if needed. Thanks! Ah, that's it then :) My usual

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-29 12:18, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:24:47PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-10-28 12:54, Andrew Lankford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could disable that feature. Oh well.

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-30 13:32, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-May/040648.html Very interesting. Maybe we can tweak 330.catman to display the filename of the manpage which causes each error. Then we could use the periodic script as an

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-30 14:16, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neat. The base-system manpages which have errors or warnings are just a few of the hundreds we have. I just finished running a slightly modified version of `/etc/periodic/weekly/330.catman', which uses `catman -v' and the list

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-10-28 12:54, Andrew Lankford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could disable that feature. Oh well. I'll delete it all and rebuild it again if needed. Thanks! Ah, that's it then :) My usual `installworld' steps include this too:

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-29 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:24:47PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-10-28 12:54, Andrew Lankford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could disable that feature. Oh well. I'll delete it all and rebuild it again if needed. Thanks!

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Christian Brueffer
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:03:33AM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: I just noticed that /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8 is still in the FreeBSD-7 tree. Is this intentional? It still says that MAKEDEV is located in /dev and mentions MAKEDEV.local as well. Could it be that you have updated

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Doug Barton
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:03:33AM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: I just noticed that /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8 is still in the FreeBSD-7 tree. Is this intentional? It still says that MAKEDEV is located in /dev and mentions MAKEDEV.local

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Andrew Lankford
, Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:03:33AM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: I just noticed that /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8 is still in the FreeBSD-7 tree. Is this intentional? It still says that MAKEDEV is located in /dev and mentions MAKEDEV.local as well. Could

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:37:45PM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: Thanks for replying, but once again I've miscommunicated the issue. I meant that MAKEDEV.8 is in /usr/src/share/man/man8/, and the modification time is Oct 13th, recent, which suggests to me that it's still in the 7.0-BETA1

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Andrew Lankford
Danny Braniss wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:37:45PM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: Thanks for replying, but once again I've miscommunicated the issue. I meant that MAKEDEV.8 is in /usr/src/share/man/man8/, and the modification time is Oct 13th, recent, which suggests to me that it's still

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Andrew Lankford
Thbbt! I'm reading the catman version of MAKEDEV. Wish I could disable that feature. Oh well. I'll delete it all and rebuild it again if needed. Thanks! Andrew Lankford Danny Braniss wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:37:45PM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: Thanks for replying, but once

Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-28 Thread Danny Braniss
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:37:45PM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: Thanks for replying, but once again I've miscommunicated the issue. I meant that MAKEDEV.8 is in /usr/src/share/man/man8/, and the modification time is Oct 13th, recent, which suggests to me that it's still in the

/usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8

2007-10-27 Thread Andrew Lankford
I just noticed that /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8 is still in the FreeBSD-7 tree. Is this intentional? It still says that MAKEDEV is located in /dev and mentions MAKEDEV.local as well. Just wondering. Andrew Lankford ___ freebsd-stable