Re: Show stopper for large disks with 5.4-RELEASE

2005-06-08 Thread Charles Swiger
Within the space of about 10 minutes this article appeared here, On Jun 8, 2005, at 5:48 PM, secmgr wrote: Actually it's a very valid choice. At this time, Linux offers ext3, XFS (from SGI), JFS (from IBM) and RieserFS as journaled file systems (as in no fscking fsck). JFS, XFS and RieserFS

Re: [Fwd: Re: Show stopper for large disks with 5.4-RELEASE]

2005-06-08 Thread Matthias Buelow
I wrote: > after an unclean boot that would be a great boon. It would be nice if > one can in the future chose between softupdates (for smaller > filesystems) and journalling (for larger ones), or so. OTOH, if journalling works really well and painless, like on Linux with the ext2->ext3 migration

Re: [Fwd: Re: Show stopper for large disks with 5.4-RELEASE]

2005-06-08 Thread Matthias Buelow
secmgr wrote: > hanging all IO's to the partition. Scale that upto 1.8TB, and I could > see where you could be going nowhere for a good 10 minutes just waiting > for the snap to finish. Still better than waiting hours for fsck, but > nowhere near the recovery speed of a true journaled system. S

[Fwd: Re: Show stopper for large disks with 5.4-RELEASE]

2005-06-08 Thread secmgr
Dmitriy Kirhlarov wrote: Hi Pierre! On Wed, 08 Jun 2005, Pierre DAVID wrote: Do you have a clue to help us use FreeBSD and not switch on Linux for this service? Bad workaround. You can create many small partitions and mount_unionfs. Actually it's a very valid choice. At this ti

Re: Show stopper for large disks with 5.4-RELEASE

2005-06-08 Thread Pierre DAVID
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:52:39PM +0800, Xin LI wrote: > > Would you please provide a bit more of information so we can investigate > what was happening, like: > > - first few lines dumpfs(8) output from your storage filesystem > - df -i on your storag filesystem > - dmesg.boot

Re: Show stopper for large disks with 5.4-RELEASE

2005-06-08 Thread Dmitriy Kirhlarov
Hi Pierre! On Wed, 08 Jun 2005, Pierre DAVID wrote: > Do you have a clue to help us use FreeBSD and not switch on Linux > for this service? Bad workaround. You can create many small partitions and mount_unionfs. By. Dmitriy ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.

Re: Show stopper for large disks with 5.4-RELEASE

2005-06-08 Thread Xin LI
Hi, Pierre, On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:31:37PM +0200, Pierre DAVID wrote: > Hi, > > we are setting up a mail server for ~50 000 users, with around 1.8TB > on a DAS storage (HP MSA 500). > > We were planning to use FreeBSD (5.4-RELEASE), as with all other > servers in our machine room. > > Howev

Show stopper for large disks with 5.4-RELEASE

2005-06-08 Thread Pierre DAVID
Hi, we are setting up a mail server for ~50 000 users, with around 1.8TB on a DAS storage (HP MSA 500). We were planning to use FreeBSD (5.4-RELEASE), as with all other servers in our machine room. However, we are encountering a show stopper: after an unclean shutdown, the snapshot that fsck cre