Re: ULE status

2005-02-11 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:47:27 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:39:15 -0800 > Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) > > > "Viktor Ivanov" <

Re: ULE status

2005-02-11 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:39:15 -0800 Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) > > "Viktor Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > On the other hand, using SCHED_ULE improves

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Frode Nordahl
On Feb 10, 2005, at 18:32, Doug Poland wrote: On Thu, February 10, 2005 10:39 am, Julio Capote said: I upgraded to 5-STABLE + ULE + PREEMPT last night, been using my desktop system heavily for about 6 hours, and no crashing, AWESOME performance under heavy load. Im curious to see some 1(O) vs ULE b

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Frode Nordahl
On Feb 10, 2005, at 18:22, Mipam wrote: I noticed this: You're running RELENG_5 on a dual Xeon 3.06GHz box You enabled DEVICE_POLLING and ULE as well. But normally compiling the kernel with SMP and polling won't work. Don't you use a SMP kernel or? I saw several pages stating that DEVICE_POLLING ac

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, February 10, 2005 11:43 am, Kevin Oberman said: >> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:32:34 -0600 (CST) From: "Doug Poland" >> Precisely how does one upgrade 5-STABLE to include ULE + PREMPT? >> Obviously I'll cvsup RELENG_5, but don't know how to set ULE + >> PREMPT. >> > Put them in your configura

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Julio Capote
Cvsup to RELENG_5, and change your kernel config ot include ULE and PREMPTION support; I suggest reading the "keeping up to date" and "kernel compiling" chapters on the handbook, if you haven't done so already. -Julio On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 11:32 -0600, Doug Poland wrote: > On Thu, February 10,

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, February 10, 2005 10:39 am, Julio Capote said: > I upgraded to 5-STABLE + ULE + PREEMPT last night, been using my > desktop system heavily for about 6 hours, and no crashing, AWESOME > performance under heavy load. Im curious to see some 1(O) vs ULE > benches.. > Precisely how does one upgr

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Mipam
Hi, I noticed this: You're running RELENG_5 on a dual Xeon 3.06GHz box You enabled DEVICE_POLLING and ULE as well. But normally compiling the kernel with SMP and polling won't work. Don't you use a SMP kernel or? Bye, Mipam. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Julio Capote
I upgraded to 5-STABLE + ULE + PREEMPT last night, been using my desktop system heavily for about 6 hours, and no crashing, AWESOME performance under heavy load. Im curious to see some 1(O) vs ULE benches.. On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 17:00 +0100, Frode Nordahl wrote: > On Feb 10, 2005, at 16:30, Rand

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Frode Nordahl
On Feb 10, 2005, at 16:30, Randy Bush wrote: how about stability? last time i tried ule, the system died in a few days. Don't know yet. I will keep trashing the server and post here if it crashes. Regards, Frode Nordahl randy ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.o

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Randy Bush
how about stability? last time i tried ule, the system died in a few days. randy ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Device polling for xl(4) (was: Re: ULE status)

2005-02-10 Thread Simon Barner
[ Cc'ing Bill Paul, the author of the xl(4) driver ] > Also, as far as I understand, some extra boost comes > from using polling the devices; however, not all > devices do support this yet. > > I use SMP (dual intel CPUs) with if_xl lan card, > but I can't use polling with this device. > > ULE +

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Rob
Simon Barner wrote: > Frode Nordahl wrote: > >>I was surprised by the actual difference in system >> performance and >>usability between 4BSD and ULE under such loads! >> >>If you haven't tried it on your heavy trafic server >>yet, go and do it >>right now! :-) > > > Just a short "me too". In

Re: ULE status

2005-02-10 Thread Simon Barner
Frode Nordahl wrote: > I was surprised by the actual difference in system performance and > usability between 4BSD and ULE under such loads! > > If you haven't tried it on your heavy trafic server yet, go and do it > right now! :-) Just a short "me too". In my case it isn't a heavy traffic serv

Re: ULE status

2005-02-09 Thread Frode Nordahl
Hello, I have been reading curiously about the ULE scheduler on the lists for quite some time without ever getting any clear good or bad feeling about it, so I thought it was about time to give it some real experience. I briefly tried it on my desktop about a year a go, and felt that everythin

Re: ULE status

2005-02-09 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:13:22 +0200 (EET) "Viktor Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Ôåâðóàðè 8, 2005 15:58, Ion-Mihai Tetcu êàçà: > >> I've been using only SCHED_ULE on my UP WS, even when there was #error > >> def. It never broke, not even once :) Though I think there's trouble > >> with

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Mike
I compiled my kernel with ULE this morning on my AMD64 workstation to help test. All seems good so far. Anything in particular to keep an eye on? -Mike On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Michael Nottebrock wrote: On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 14:02, Mipam wrote: Okay clear, but the fact that it's in 5-stable sug

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:39:15 -0800 Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) > > "Viktor Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 8, 2005 14:33, Michael Nottebrock ???

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Mipam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for all comments on this topic. > A good point was made upon the fact that there were always options > available that weren't stable in X-stable. > The docs contained appropriate warnings about it you mentioned. I guess you're referring to my comment.

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) > "Viktor Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 8, 2005 14:33, Michael Nottebrock : > > > On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:07, Mipam wrote: > > >> I saw several changes

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Mipam
Thanks for all comments on this topic. A good point was made upon the fact that there were always options available that weren't stable in X-stable. The docs contained appropriate warnings about it you mentioned. Cool, I wish to read the docs on ULE and possible warnings about using ULE, where ca

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Viktor Ivanov
On Tue, Февруари 8, 2005 15:58, Ion-Mihai Tetcu каза: >> I've been using only SCHED_ULE on my UP WS, even when there was #error >> def. It never broke, not even once :) Though I think there's trouble >> with SMP and/or HTT. I tried it once on a P4 and it paniced. >> >> On the other hand, using SCHE

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) "Viktor Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Ôåâðóàðè 8, 2005 14:33, Michael Nottebrock êàçà: > > On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:07, Mipam wrote: > >> I saw several changes to sched_ule.c in the 5 stable branch. > >> Beneath is one of them: > >> > >

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Mipam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 14:02, Mipam wrote: > > > Okay clear, but the fact that it's in 5-stable suggests the it's stable > > > to > > > use, else why would it be in 5-stable. > > > Maybe i'm completly wrong in this interpretation? > [...] > I thoug

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 14:22, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:51:17 +0200 (EET) > > "Viktor Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Ôåâðóàðè 8, 2005 14:43, Ion-Mihai Tetcu êàçà: > > > Could you tell us again after a week ? There used to be a panic when > > > using rtprio

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Mipam
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 14:02, Mipam wrote: > > > Okay clear, but the fact that it's in 5-stable suggests the it's stable to > > use, else why would it be in 5-stable. > > The changes that have been merged to stable have been tested for some t

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 14:02, Mipam wrote: > Okay clear, but the fact that it's in 5-stable suggests the it's stable to > use, else why would it be in 5-stable. The changes that have been merged to stable have been tested for some time in 6-CURRENT, so they're not completely experimental,

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:51:17 +0200 (EET) "Viktor Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Ôåâðóàðè 8, 2005 14:43, Ion-Mihai Tetcu êàçà: > > Could you tell us again after a week ? There used to be a panic when > > using rtprio to raise the priority of a running process, do you know if > > it's f

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:00:03 +0100 Michael Nottebrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:43, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > There used to be a panic when > > using rtprio to raise the priority of a running process, do you know if > > it's fix ? > > I never got any panics with

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Mipam
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:38, Mipam wrote: > > > Okay, so then the ULE sched is fairly stable then? > > But it's still not the default scheduler? > > It will never become the default scheduler in 5.x again. 5.x went into > -STABLE > mode wi

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:43, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > There used to be a panic when > using rtprio to raise the priority of a running process, do you know if > it's fix ? I never got any panics with ULE back when it was available, so I can't tell. If you care about ULE, turn it on and see

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:38, Mipam wrote: > Okay, so then the ULE sched is fairly stable then? > But it's still not the default scheduler? It will never become the default scheduler in 5.x again. 5.x went into -STABLE mode with 4BSD, and that's why the default will remain 4BSD. > Is it s

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Viktor Ivanov
On Tue, Февруари 8, 2005 14:43, Ion-Mihai Tetcu каза: > Could you tell us again after a week ? There used to be a panic when > using rtprio to raise the priority of a running process, do you know if > it's fix ? > I never had those, and I usually run mplayer with rtprio 30... Though mplayer never

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Viktor Ivanov
On Tue, Февруари 8, 2005 14:33, Michael Nottebrock каза: > On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:07, Mipam wrote: >> I saw several changes to sched_ule.c in the 5 stable branch. >> Beneath is one of them: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2005-February/039863.html >> >> Is the ULE schedule

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:33:04 +0100 Michael Nottebrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:07, Mipam wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I saw several changes to sched_ule.c in the 5 stable branch. > > Beneath is one of them: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2005-Februa

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Mipam
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:07, Mipam wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I saw several changes to sched_ule.c in the 5 stable branch. > > Beneath is one of them: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2005-February/039863.html > > > > Is the ULE

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:07, Mipam wrote: > Hi, > > I saw several changes to sched_ule.c in the 5 stable branch. > Beneath is one of them: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2005-February/039863.html > > Is the ULE scheduler still far from stable in RELENG_5 or not? You can now

ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Mipam
Hi, I saw several changes to sched_ule.c in the 5 stable branch. Beneath is one of them: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2005-February/039863.html Is the ULE scheduler still far from stable in RELENG_5 or not? Bye, Mipam. ___ freebsd-stabl