Re: [Freedombox-discuss] assigned numbers without ICANN

2011-04-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-28 at 07:08pm, Thomas Lord wrote: > Allocating Assigned Routing Numbers > in a Distributed and Decentralized Way > > > NEED FOR AN OVERLAY NETWORK > > Programs for Freedomboxes can not assume that each box has a > stable IP address. Boxes are most often l

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] assigned numbers without ICANN

2011-04-29 Thread Dave Crossland
On 29 April 2011 01:18, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > no technology should be unique to FreedomBoxes What, then, makes them unique? ___ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/list

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] the "living room brick"

2011-04-29 Thread Jaromil
hi Jonas, On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > all parts of the system must be... > > a) The product must be long-term maintainable. > b) All services contribute to "the silverlining of the cloud" sry for my ignorance, but what does "silverlining" means? > In my opinion a) is b

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Project plan?

2011-04-29 Thread Anthony Callegaro
Le vendredi 22 avril 2011 à 12:32 +0200, Jaromil a écrit : > >I was a Kickstarter contributor and have so far been lurking on > >the list - and I'm wondering if any project leaders have emerged, > >or what the (concrete) plan is. The "Roadmap" page on the > >Freedombox site states w

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] the "living room brick"

2011-04-29 Thread e.waelde
Hello, sry for my ignorance, but what does "silverlining" means? Eben Moglens talk on Debconf 2010: ''How We Can Be the Silver Lining of the Cloud'' see e.g. here: http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/641.en.html Cheers, Erich ___ Freedom

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] the "living room brick"

2011-04-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-29 at 11:15am, Jaromil wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > all parts of the system must be... > > > > a) The product must be long-term maintainable. > > b) All services contribute to "the silverlining of the cloud" > > sry for my ignorance, but what does "si

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] assigned numbers without ICANN

2011-04-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-29 at 02:08am, Dave Crossland wrote: > On 29 April 2011 01:18, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > no technology should be unique to FreedomBoxes > > What, then, makes them unique? That they were $foo in putting a particular set of freedom-enabling technologies into an ugly beige box, and

[Freedombox-discuss] Harddrive + Excito B3

2011-04-29 Thread Lorenzo
Hello, I'm looking into some hardware to buy to start testing few Freedombox-related ideas. I came to the conclusion that having an hard drive inside the box is a must for the following reasons: 1) Storage space: I need lots of GB to store photos, etc. 2) Wear: I'm not very comfortable on hav

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Harddrive + Excito B3

2011-04-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-29 at 07:10am, Lorenzo wrote: > I'm looking into some hardware to buy to start testing few > Freedombox-related ideas. I came to the conclusion that having an hard > drive inside the box is a must for the following reasons: > > 1) Storage space: I need lots of GB to store photos, etc. >

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Project plan?

2011-04-29 Thread Patrick Anderson
Anthony Callegaro wrote: > I am trying to get some time to implement a Dropbox replacement I think this is a great goal because it is fairly simple and widely used. For the same reasons, I would like to help create a solution for email. But, while the software is already available, what I see mi

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Project plan?

2011-04-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Patrick, On 11-04-29 at 09:01am, Patrick Anderson wrote: > Is there room on this list for the discussion of sharing hardware and > working-out the complexities of co-ownership, or is that beyond the > scope of what FreedomBox is meant to cover? I do believe it is beyond the scope of FreedomB

[Freedombox-discuss] 26aaaad5fca97fc63e5cf5dfab985d202427f13a

2011-04-29 Thread Dick Moby
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Re: [Freedombox-discuss] assigned numbers without ICANN

2011-04-29 Thread Thomas Lord
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 22:48 -0700, Dave Crossland wrote: > On 28 April 2011 19:08, Thomas Lord wrote: > > > > All of the routing IDs we'll talk about here are written > > as 10 character numbers in base 36 (more than 51 and less > > than 52 bits). > > Base 34 is better, eliminating L and 0 fro

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] assigned *names* (was Re: assigned numbers without ICANN)

2011-04-29 Thread Thomas Lord
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 22:54 -0700, Dave Crossland wrote: On 28 April 2011 19:12, Thomas Lord wrote: > > Notice that *unlike* DNS hostnames, overlay network hostnames > > have an ugly base 36 number tacked on the end, following a > > percent sign > > Would the application layer of the stack hide

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] assigned numbers without ICANN

2011-04-29 Thread Thomas Lord
Jonas, thanks for this: > I strongly recommend to work on this independently from the FreedomBox > project. > I don't mean "go away - you are disturbing this list" but rather that no > technology should be unique to FreedomBoxes - so I suggest to either > remove the term "Freedomboxes" from y

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Project plan?

2011-04-29 Thread Patrick Anderson
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > It is _very_ exciting to hear about all the great things people are > working on inventing, and all the different kinds of hardware people are > working on getting freedom-enabling technologies into besides Plug > devices. Just to be clear, I'm not talking about inventin

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Project plan?

2011-04-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-29 at 11:13am, Patrick Anderson wrote: > Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > It is _very_ exciting to hear about all the great things people are > > working on inventing, and all the different kinds of hardware people are > > working on getting freedom-enabling technologies into besides Plug > > d

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Project plan?

2011-04-29 Thread Patrick Anderson
> Patrick Anderson wrote: >> I'm talking about making Free as in Freedom Cloud >> Computing by addressing the issues that arise when >> we try to share hardware. Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > How does that relate to "the silverlining of the cloud" as defined by > Eben Moglen and the common attractor a

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Project plan?

2011-04-29 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Anthony Callegaro wrote: Le vendredi 22 avril 2011 ?? 12:32 +0200, Jaromil a ??crit : I was a Kickstarter contributor and have so far been lurking on the list - and I'm wondering if any project leaders have emerged, or what the (concrete) plan is. The "Roadmap"