not
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> and http://ftp.freedombox.org/pub/freedombox/
Aha. Should the mirror be removed? If it isn't used, it would be
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n in /var/ and the configuration in /etc/. You can probably limit
it to /var/lib/, as that is the location for application data (as
opposed to caches, spools, logs etc).
When I reinstall from scratch, I typically save /var/, /etc/ and /home/
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> I saw the messages on this topic in May, but my partition is ext4 so
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Unless you have something resizable partitioning system "underneath"
ext4 (like LVM), there is no resizing that can be done.
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> I was wondering what people thought about the idea of having your own
> search engine together in your freedombox?
Sound cool. I can help if someone is interested in packaging this for
Debian. Let me know on IRC if you need a sponsor. :)
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Is there RSS support for gathering several blogs like planet.debian.org.
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> Maybe have a look at https://github.com/Libresonic/libresonic then?
> I never used it but that might at least be another possible approach.
Could be. I refreshed a subsonic WNPP requests and it is now listed as
http://bugs.debian.org/458829 >.
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from
home at work and when travelling.
And sure, mounting network drives using plinth would be great, but not a
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Serval project that Android is unable to
configure mesh networking without rooting the pone. Is this still true,
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I would expect this to work already (install debian, set up freedombox).
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Using the same server as debian.org and being able to share experience
and setup with the server on debian.org seem like a fairly big advantage
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[2]
http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2017/debian/modern-and-secure-instant-messaging
[3] http://social.gl-como.it/display/3e3ce0df935878c72066160183048976
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the first time? How
hard can it be? It would allow people to register their initial user
using the linux console and be able to log in when it is done.
Or perhaps make a simple tty program to register the first user, instead
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I have no idea why. I ran 'apt upgrade' manually today, and hope things
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[Petter Reinholdtsen]
> Check out https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/freedombox/plinth/ >
> if you want to complete the missing translations (but stay away from
> Norwegian Bokmål, which is still translated on Transifex).
I'm happy to report that the Norwegian Bokmål translators are
cker.debian.org/pkg/mumble - removal on 2016-08-21 (bug:
#831184)
- plinth - https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/plinth - removal on 2016-09-01
- tor - https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/tor - removal on 2016-09-01 (bug:
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[Bob Girard]
> Deterrence based on any kind of economic argument seems a little
> dubious, at least in the U.S. After all, the FBI/NSA/etc. have never
> relented in their hacking because of budgetary constraints; they have
> carte-blanche access to as much taxpayer money as they want.
The
d?
> Tests so far havn't been very extensive. I havn't run them for weeks
> at a time, but that will probably happen soon.
Right. Do you use read-only file systems? I suspect it might be a
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Box wiki and agree to the new
> license, please reply to this mail on the mailing list.
I'm fine with licensing my contributions to the wiki as CC-BY-SA 4.0
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which is currently empty? Is the problem in unstable or testing?
Should the current libpam-abl package be held out of testing. We got a
few days to report a RC bug before it migrates.
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> Congratulations on the hard work you've done. You're a decimal point
> away from v1.0!!!
No, no. The successor of 0.9 is 0.10, not 1.0. :)
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of installed packages for itself,
but instead trust dpkg and apt to know if a package is installed? It
seem like a bad idea to cache the set of installed packages and pretend
it is the authoritative data source.
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I just blogged about ZFS on Linux in Debian. Check out
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>
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in Transifex now. :)
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> As the complete set of packages used by FreedomBox isn't easy to find,
> he created it by using all the dependencies of freedombox-setup and
> plinth. :)
And today he improved the list a bit, as can be seen on
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/reproducib
asy to find,
he created it by using all the dependencies of freedombox-setup and
plinth. :)
If we can provide a machine readable list of all the packages used by
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soon. I guess the same should be done with
django-stronghold, freedombox-setup, plinth and python-socksipychain?
> Here's a list of packages that are installable through Plinth:
Perhaps you can add them to the qa.debian.org list when the email
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scare people off this list.
Which packages should be have such list as its maintainer? I suspect at
least freedombox-setup, plinth and pagekite. Others?
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opkgtest script to produce the list as an artifact
showing up in
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>.
It would make sure it is always up to date. Perhaps something you can
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Perhaps we should generate this list regularly and suggest newcomers
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Or did I misunderstand, and you actually managed to get it working on
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blate is lost), that
seem like an equally bad idea if Translators are using the web interface
to update translations.
I guess the underlying question I am trying to raise here is where is
the authorative source for translated strings (git or the web editor),
and how can we ensure the integrity of
this file. Then Transifex will update the original texts
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is almost complete. I hope for a Danish edition too. :)
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masses. We finish with a discussion of pain points encountered using
Mailvelope, and discuss what might be done to address them in future
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of git conflicts and allowed several to work on the same texts
without any problems. Any shared web editor for PO files would work.
There are several, with widely different user interfaces and ease of
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>> Regarding Plinth, translation has started on Github
>> https://github.com/freedombox/Plinth/tree/bcb26cc52c9048501e3cfa1098de98df4a4b75af/locale
>
> Very good that it is using PO files.
Btw, I had a closer look (and started on an nb translation), and
min makemessages'.
> Django has a tiny wrapper over gettext to make a few additional things
> possible[1]. The idea is to stick with it's way of doing i18n/l10n. It
> supports:
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> I'm not quite sure how to clean up the mess I created, but guess a
> 'git reset' and a forced push is out of the question, and that a
> commit to remove the debian directory is the only option?
Sunil recommended the reset+forced push method, so I have done
e a web browser to
update the .po files. Is this the process you have in mind to handle the
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o have made their own mesh protocol. What are your views on mesh
protocol? What is important to consider? What use case is most
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'btrfs filesystem resize max
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I send the blog author a proposal to create a new apt transport method
in /usr/lib/apt/methods/ to make it easier to ensure transport via Tor,
but I have not tested it myself.
Today a new blog post showed up,
URL:
http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2015/08/25-Tor
packages from the Debian archive.
I send the blog author a proposal to create a new apt transport method
in /usr/lib/apt/methods/ to make it easier to ensure transport via Tor,
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and Python are
of very high quality compared to proprietary software according to
yearly reports from Coverity. Javascript have several implementations,
so it is not possible to make a sensible general statement about its
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I would prefer it if the list send non-subscribers to moderation, as
this will keep almost all spam away from the list subscribers, and
hope the moderator can consider this. Do you agree? But who is
really moderating the list? I got no reply from jimmy
to trust the software if the
hardware can't be trusted. But it should make sure every platform is
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it impossible to
get any progress. How do we avoid that pitfall, while not making life
harder for those in needing protected communication and computing
systems? I am not sure.
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password on the freedombox test setup. The fbx user have sudo
access now instead. In time, when plinth is working well enough for
this, I want to get rid of all well known passwords and use the password
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I plan to change the snapshot naming system to be more like zfsnap, and
store enough information in the snapshot names to know when to purge
them without any manual intervention.
Anyone know how to figure out how much space a btrfs snapshot uses? I
would like something
(at)
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A more complete script would ensure /proc/, /sys/ and /dev/ are
mounted from the system, to allow for example java to figure out what
CPU is used. It should also be used with some care, as packages like
grub might change the disk images outside the snapshot and thus
the installation for upgrades,
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that it is working!
Does this mean the freedom-maker/README file should be updated, or is
this normally done in one of the scripts in freedom-maker or
freedombox-setup?
Did you still need to patch vmdebootstrap when using the x_bootargs_root
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. It will be intrusive if we start to use
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for
the project (the wiki?). At the SFLC 10th Anniversary Celebration, I
don't know where any documentation is, and everything points to
something else was a frequent complaint. How do we fix that?
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and check upgrades on snapshots before commit the change to disk, I
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the system, to allow for example java to figure out what
CPU is used. It should also be used with some care, as packages like
grub might change the disk images outside the snapshot and thus affect
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These ideas about SMTorP and Cables sound great, but I am wondering
what is needed to get these options into the FreedomBox. Can any of
you who know these approaches best tell us what needs to be done?
Are Cables, SMTorP and Mailpile compatible? Can they send email
the hook up the package manager to take a
snapshot before any package installation or system upgrade like is
suggested.
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as
it should. When I start plinth with --debug --no-daemon as root from
the command line, it work. When it is started as a service, it do not
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I installed using
'url=http://www.reinholdtsen.name/freedombox/unstable.dat' if you want
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structure for Debian too.
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up my own pagekite server. :)
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do you believe would it be to
integrate it into Debian and Freedombox?
Also, I didn't know it was still under active development. I should
add that AFAICT it hasn't been peer-reviewed, which is unfortunate
(but fixable, all you research folks out there...)
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(the easiest way to do it
is to submit a release critical bug report against plinth, asking for
it to be kept out of testing).
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the amount of
unwanted email, and not to be able to send email without leaking
metadata to prying eyes.
What do the rest of you thing about this idea? Possible to implemnt?
Something to put in the FreedomBox?
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Hi.
I had a look at torchat the other day, and it seem like an interesting
chat solution that perhaps can replace XMPP in the Freedombox. It set
up person to person chat using tor hidden services (each user receive
messages on a tor hidden service), and allow people
service to talk to each other.
It look like it could also be used to exchange email by delivering and
receiving mail via the same channel.
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].
Yes, but it is also outdated. I do not believe the recipe work any
more.
The current recipe would be to fetch freedom-maker from git, build the
Raspberry Pi image following the instruction in the git repo, and boot
from the image after putting it on a SD card.
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attention, and remind everyone
that we currently do not have a working XMPP server in the freedombox
setup. :(
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Hi Petter!
Hi. :)
I'm hoping this email prodding Ted might work, but if no one else
volunteers, I could look at it - I'd like to understand the patches
first though.
Great. Then I will trust you to handle this, and focus on other
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Someone got time to help out making sure this do not happen?
I was just told that this is still a problem, freedombox-setup will be
removed from testing in a little over one week, and wonder what we
should do. Should we drop the package as a dependency? Anyone
working
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