Hi folks,
This is my first message on this list so let me introduce myself.
I'm Rob van der Hoeven, a developer from The Netherlands that want a
FreedomBox for myself (and everyone else of course!). At the moment i'm
building my own FreedomBox and like to share my work/experience
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 18:20 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 11-04-13 at 05:49pm, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 05:06:23PM +0200, Rob van der Hoeven wrote:
> >
> > > One of the first things you have to do when building a system like
> > >
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 11:59 -0600, Ing. Otto Marroquin wrote:
> On 04/13/2011 09:06 AM, Rob van der Hoeven wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > This is my first message on this list so let me introduce myself.
> > I'm Rob van der Hoeven, a developer from The Netherland
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 16:24 -0500, Charles N Wyble wrote:
> On 4/13/2011 10:06 AM, Rob van der Hoeven wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > This is my first message on this list so let me introduce myself.
> > I'm Rob van der Hoeven, a developer from The Netherlands that
Hi folks,
Every time you read an article about the FreedomBox it mentions that the
hardware is very cheap and will become even cheaper in the future. This
emphasis on cheap hardware worries me. After all, the FreedomBox is a
server that must run reliably 24/7 for years. Cheap and server are
incomp
erface the reference implementation
will just be like any other GNU/Linux system: Good for geeks, not for the
average Joe.
Rob van der Hoeven.
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Hi folks,
I updated my blog with an article about my FreedomBox architecture.
http://freedomboxblog.nl/installing-lxc-dhcp-and-dns-on-my-freedombox/
Short summary:
Linux Containers (LXC) are the basic building blocks of my FreedomBox
architecture. This article shows how the network must be conf
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FreedomBox will be mature
and i expect a lot of serurity/stability issues.
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On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 06:52 +0800, Sandy Harris wrote:
> Rob van der Hoeven wrote:
>
> >> A standard tactic for security is isolation of services.
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Clearly we cannot expect to use a separate machine
> >> for each FB service, bu
lding everything
> from scratch, e.g. Buddycloud - approached as an XMPP extension with
> multiple implementations.
Diaspora is just an example. The problem here is that in order to mature
some programs that we want to have on our FreedomBoxes need our platform
to mature.
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irtualization is widely used by the centralized services that dominate
the internet today. There are good reasons for this (not only security).
You may call my approach experimental (no problem with that), the
question is: is it the right approach? I belief it is, but i also belief
a system s
I think it is fine to use the Dream Plug for a reference implementation.
It would be a grave mistake to recommend this device to the general
public. Wrote an article on my blog about this:
http://freedomboxblog.nl/free-hardware-for-the-freedombox-software/
Rob van der Hoeven
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Hi,
I have upgraded my FreedomBox with Shorewall and wrote an article about
this on my blog. Link:
http://freedomboxblog.nl/adding-a-firewall-and-nat-to-my-freedombox/
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On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 22:09 +0800, Sandy Harris wrote:
> Slashdot story points to an item on set--top boxes burning
> huge amounts of power:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/us/26cable.html?_r=4
>
> They mention 400-odd KWh a year At 5 watts times 24
> times 365, a plug computer comes out an or
Hi,
I posted a new article on my blog:
http://freedomboxblog.nl/ssh-access-from-the-internet-to-my-freedombox/
Summary:
On my FreedomBox I want SSH access from the internet for the following
reasons:
* My FreedomBox is designed to be shared with family and friends,
any user can get his/her
share
your FreedomBox with family and friends if you want to. Things are
running smoothly for months now and all is documented on my blog:
http://freedomboxblog.nl
(The blog is of course hosted on my own FreedomBox)
Cheers,
Rob van der Hoeven
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 18:40 +0200, Melvin Carvalho
/
DebWrt is all about running Debian GNU/Linux on embedded devices, for
example wireless routers. DebWrt connects two very powerful
technologies: Debian and OpenWrt.
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Hi folks,
Discovered a video of a nice talk by James Vasile at Elevate 2011 (dated
2011-10-24, duration: 1:28:16) called: Freedom, out of the box!
http://wahltotal.at/embed_q_id/1327
Enjoy,
Rob van der Hoeven.
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udevd───2*[udevd]
└─winbindd───2*[winbindd]
Memory consumption:
total used free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem:515572 502684 12888 0 109636
222816
-/+ buffers/cache: 170232 345340
Swap: 1508344 308041477540
Rob
dia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Rimsky-Korsakov_-_flight_of_the_bumblebee.ogv
Rob van der Hoeven
http://freedomboxblog.nl
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 01:33 +0100, Robert Martinez wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> looks like Debora, Matt and I are the only (vocal) "Promotion and Visual
> Identi
> I like the bumble bee, even though I haven't seen one in decades.
Where i live (dutch countryside) they are still quite abundant.
> Are they officially recognised as extinct yet? I'll know the world is
> going in the right direction when I see the next one.
Interesting remark, (bumble) bees an
> The bee is a good suggestion, especially since bees are social and
> work in concert to accomplish important tasks, like protecting the
> hive. Perhaps a detailed logo would look a lot like a bee and the
> abstracted version could be a yellow and black box with wings?
Should the logo reference
Tonido has a new version of their plug computer.
Some specs:
Marvell Armada 310 chipset, 800MHz (1.2 Watt)
512 MB DDR3 RAM and 512 MB NAND flash
Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi b/g/n
Built-in SATA 2.5” enclosure
More specs:
https://store.tonido.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=1&
Very interesting device. Does it run Debian yet ;-)
This device is for sale in Germany:
http://aldi.medion.com/md86407/sued/?refPage=aldi#technische_details_anker
For only 100 euro you even get 36 months warranty. Compare this with the
one month (YES, ONE MONTH!) warranty of the Dreamplug.
On F
Hi Quiliro,
I'm the one behind freedomboxblog.nl. Here is some information that
might help:
First: i have implemented (tested) my FreedomBox architecture both on
ARM as on i32 systems (Atom 330). There are no special requirements,
it's "just" Debian packages and some scripts that i modified/wrote
Hi Folks,
As proud owner of a blog about the FreedomBox i regular check my "Google
rating". I do a search for freedombox and check which resulting page has
a link to one of my postings. Until yesterday i always had an article
mentioned in the first 5 pages with results. Yesterday i could not find
The message subject says it all. Read all about it at:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/13/2321224/24-year-old-asks-facebook-for-his-data-gets-1200-pdfs
Note: this service is only available in the EU.
Rob.
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On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 15:49 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> It's not an ARM, but it's low-power enough to
> qualify as an embedded (<25 W TDP):
>
> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/sm/WF06b/15351-15351-4237916-4237917-4237917-4248009-5163346.html
>
> sells for 192.80 EUR on amazon.de
The GuruPlu
Hi Folks,
On www.linuxfordevices.com i stumbled on this interesting new device:
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Marvell-SMILE-Plug/
Here are some specs:
On the SMILE Plug, the Armada 300 (2 GHz) is joined with the Marvell
Avastar 88W8764 Wi-Fi chipset, and is accompanied by 512MB each o
Hi Folks,
On www.linuxfordevices.com i stumbled on this interesting new device:
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Marvell-SMILE-Plug/
Here are some specs:
On the SMILE Plug, the Armada 300 (2 GHz) is joined with the Marvell
Avastar 88W8764 Wi-Fi chipset, and is accompanied by 512MB each o
Came across a great talk by Moxie Marlinspike at Defcon 18.
Changing Threats To Privacy: From TIA To Google
download: https://media.defcon.org/dc-18/video/DEF%20CON%2018%20Hacking%
20Conference%20Presentation%20By%20-%20Moxie%20Marlinspike%20-%
20Changing%20Threats%20To%20Privacy%20From%20TIA%20t
Hi,
Last week i build a new Intel Pentium system that is very energy
efficient. Idle power consumption is just 23 Watt, max power consumption
is 53 Watt (no graphics). It can be used as a FreedomBox server/general
purpose PC or both...
Specs are here:
http://freedomboxblog.nl/building-an-energy-
On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 10:25 +0800, Sandy Harris wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Rob van der Hoeven
> wrote:
>
> > Last week i build a new Intel Pentium system that is very energy
> > efficient. Idle power consumption is just 23 Watt, max power consumption
> &
On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 10:30 +1000, monkeyiq wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 16:36 +0200, Rob van der Hoeven wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Last week i build a new Intel Pentium system that is very energy
> > efficient. Idle power consumption is just 23 Watt, max power con
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 20:38 -0700, Dave Taht wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Sandy Harris
> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Rob van der Hoeven
> wrote:
>
> > Last week i build a new Intel Pentium system th
Hi,
I posted a new article on my blog:
http://freedomboxblog.nl/cheap-hardware-for-the-freedombox-software/
In this article i answer the following question: When does the energy
cost of running the FreedomBox software on a desktop computer justifies
buying specialized low power hardware? The ans
> Currently I'm busy with the new theme, so I could offer to prepare a
> re-encoded video but have no youtube account.
>
Another idea. Why don't we host our videos on our own server?
All our video's are hosted on commercial websites like youtube, vimeo
etc. Shouldn't we protect our visitors from
Hi,
www.linuxtech.net published an interesting article about the Intel
DN2800MT CedarView Atom mini-ITX board. The article has detailed
measurements of the power consumption.
http://www.linuxtech.net/reviews/intel_DN2800MT_cedarview_atom_power_draw.html
Quick specs:
Idle power consumption ~11 W
Yesterday Nick Daly started a discussion about PHP alternatives. PHP is
crap, and has a very bad security reputation. Should we use programs
that are written in PHP for the FreedomBox?
I fully agree that we should try to avoid using PHP, but i also think
that this alone does not solve a very basi
> In my particular usage case, Tomoyo revealed alot of nonsense that
> some Firefox add-ons were doing, and allowed me to easily restrict the
> wayward activities. And the add-ons continued to function fine anyway.
This is one of the things i like about TOMOYO, it can show you exactly
what a prog
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:31 +0100, Ramana Kumar wrote:
> Can someone like me help achieve the aims of the FreedomBox Foundation
> without buying a plug server? Can't I run my desktop as a server, and
> what would be the point?
Because a FreedomBox runs 24/7 the (idle) power consumption of your
des
Discovered a video of Bdale Garbee's talk at Debconf 12.
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2012/debconf12/low/848_FreedomBox_Update.ogv
Enjoy,
Rob.
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On Sat, 2012-08-04 at 17:14 +0200, Angelo Danio wrote:
> 2012/8/3, Rob van der Hoeven :
> > of running the FreedomBox software on a desktop computer. Compared it
> > with the DreamPlug and Raspberry Pi.
>
> it is possible to run an image DreamPlug on a Raspberry? or there is
Hi Folks,
Today i stumbled upon what looks like a very interesting device.
It has the following specs:
CPU : 1.2GHz Allwinner A10 ARM Cortex A8
GPU : Mali400
Serial port : 4-pin header
Audio in: 3.5mm microphone jack
Audio out : Audio over HDMI
USB
> firewallshi, im looking for a way to install several dreamplugs in
> several locations and be able to connect to all of them without
> worring about firewalls
>
> i guess a centraliced server to connect to will be needed
>
> i was thinking of running a daemon connected to a central server via
>
Hi folks,
The last few weeks i have been playing with a MK802 stick-computer.
>From my experience i think this little computer will be excellent
hardware for our FreedomBox project. Wrote an article about its features
and performance on my blog:
http://freedomboxblog.nl/introducing-the-mk802-free
> One question about booting. You say...
> Apart from all the hardware features its boot process is also
> interesting. Booting goes as follows:
>
> 1. Check if the reset pin is pressed. If so, load new
> firmware from the USB port.
>
> What could be the reason for the MK802's poor WiFi performance (770
> KB/s)? If it is the 1Ghz CPU's fault, then there is something seriously
> wrong with the A10/Cortex8, no?
The reason is probably a poor antenna. WIFI is the bottleneck, the
processor is running at ~ 30%
>
> I'm asking be
> > I am thinking in the same direction. A combination of an OpenWRT router
> > and a MK802. The best way to do this is by using the USB-OTG port. If
> > this port is put in device-mode you can load the Ethernet-gadget kernel
> > driver. This driver turns the MK802 USB-OTG port into an USB-Ethernet
A month ago i wrote an article about the MK802 stick PC. Excellent
hardware for the FreedomBox in my opinion. In this article i predicted
that its price probably would come down from $65 to about $40. Today i
found the device for $39.99, including an USB host and USB sound card.
Here is the link:
On July 15 Eben Moglen spoke at HOPE (Hackers on Planet Earth) about the
missing first law of robotics (A robot may not injure a human being or,
through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm) in the devices we
use today. As always with Eben, this is an interesting talk! A video of
his talk
The Slashdot article reminded me of a great talk by Jonathan Zittrain
about his book "The future of the Internet (and how to stop it)" If you
are interested, here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixejCSsXM1o
You can download his book for free at:
http://futureoftheinternet.org/
Enjoy,
> Folks have traditionally had trouble getting into the FBX project. Some
> of that is related to how the project has a dozen or more homes that are
> variously linked to one another. The project's (more or less) effective
> home seems to be the Debian Wiki, as that gets the most love of any of
>
>Im just wondering if people are actually running freedomboxes for
>useful things right now?
I have been running a FreedomBox (a QNAP TS-119 NAS running Debian
Squeeze) for 1.5 years now. These are the things i use it for:
1) NAS.
2) 3 * WordPress blog (freedomboxblog.nl, my brothers website and
> > I have been running a FreedomBox (a QNAP TS-119 NAS running Debian
> > Squeeze) for 1.5 years now. These are the things i use it for:
> >
> > 1) NAS.
> > 2) 3 * WordPress blog (freedomboxblog.nl, my brothers website and an
> > experimental website)
> > 3) Owncloud for sharing stuff with family
> different problem, but near to what I consider the main problem
> here, which is: setting up the home users own home lan so that
> the user is really fully connected to the Net is today difficult
> for most people.
I agree it's difficult and inconvenient but the firewall in your home
router is n
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 11:32 +0100, Johan Henselmans wrote:
> i had a short discussion the Bdale about jails in Debian, like there exist in
> FreeBSD: lightweight jails, having their own TCP/IP stack, which could
> compartimentalize a server.
>
> He mentioned that there are similar solutions in
> > the Lenny repositories are not available anymore. LXC on Wheezy was
> > frozen at the time the Debian LXC package itself was broken. Its very
> > unfortunate that LXC on Wheezy is broken because its maintainer has
> > clearly put a *lot* of effort in the package and now *normal* Debian
> > user
> > For Wheezy it's this bug:
> >
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=680469
> >
> > Already solved, but not in time for the release-freeze.
>
> I see, thanks. The initial submitter gave this bug Severity: normal. Do you
> feel this bug makes lxc unusable, or mostly so? If th
Hi Folks,
Last Sunday Eben and Bdale spoke at Fosdem about Freedombox 1.0
The video of that talk is now available at:
http://video.fosdem.org/2013/maintracks/Janson/FreedomBox_1.0.webm
Enjoy,
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On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 23:23 +, Wookey wrote:
> +++ Wookey [2013-02-04 17:50 +]:
> > +++ Rob van der Hoeven [2013-02-04 16:56 +0100]:
> >
> > > I think most Debian users want Debian LXC containers. This is not
> > > possible in the upcoming Wheezy
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 23:15 -0600, Nick M. Daly wrote:
> Rob van der Hoeven writes:
>
> > On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 23:23 +, Wookey wrote:
> >> OK, the release team response was to raise this to 'important' and ask
> >> for a patch and an upload to testi
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 23:15 -0600, Nick M. Daly wrote:
> Rob van der Hoeven writes:
>
> > On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 23:23 +, Wookey wrote:
> >> OK, the release team response was to raise this to 'important' and ask
> >> for a patch and an upload to testi
Hi Folks,
Done some Raspberry Pi performance measurements.
Read all about it at:
http://freedomboxblog.nl/raspberry-pi-performance/
Cheers,
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On Sun, 2013-02-10 at 17:22 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Would be nice if you could avoid promoting the misconception of Raspbian
> being a version of Debian - it is no more so than Ubuntu is. Better to
> instead say "This is a Debian derivative that has been optimized...".
>
Fixed.
> Wou
> > Unfortunately, LXC still seems to have broken templates.
>
> [details of breakage snipped]
>
> You make it clear that in your opinion LXC is ideal for FreedomBox, but
> you also make it clear that it is not currently working. Please then
> _invite_ others on this list over to that relevant
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 11:06 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> Quoting Rob van der Hoeven (2013-05-10 10:03:40)
> > > > Unfortunately, LXC still seems to have broken templates.
> > >
> > > [details of breakage snipped]
> > >
> >
On Wed, 2013-07-03 at 09:18 +0100, Nick Hardiman wrote:
> I got a couple questions -
>
> What is the point of choosing new hardware? Will picking a different
> hardware target help to spread the software development? Will a small
> percentage of the million RPis get used for privacy work?
>
I do
> I've been looking for projects comparable to freedombox for about 4 weeks now
> and just today wired magazine wrote [1] about indie web [2]
> which seems to have goals comparable to freedombox.
Another FreedomBox-like project is arkOS
https://arkos.io/
Runs on the Raspberry Pi, looks very p
Yesterday at DebConf13 Bdale Garbee gave an update on the FreedomBox.
Video is already online at:
http://penta.debconf.org/dc13_schedule/events/964.en.html
Enjoy,
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On Tue, 2013-10-01 at 13:12 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I saw LXC discussed quite a bit earlier on the mailing list, and it
> seem like a good idea to isolate the different services from each
> other on the Freedombox.
>
> As far as I can tell, LXC now work out of the box on Jessi
> > I'm using LXC for 2.5 years and have written many articles about my
> > setup which you can find at:
> >
> > http://freedomboxblog.nl/articles-tagged-software-architecture
> >
> > I think these articles answer many of your questions. The list of
> > articles is in reverse order: start with the
> While I would prefer if you worked in the open I do have some suggestions
> on what other things/frameworks/ideas people have some what recently been
> doing with containers and container like things for 'application deployment'.
>
Hi Leen,
I will release a demo as soon as possible. Once the d
works exactly is
explained in this article:
http://freedomboxblog.nl/program_space
Enjoy,
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Hi Leen,
> As this makes use of the same kernel features as LXC, Docker and even
> systemd I obviously was comparing it while I'm reading.
>
> You made some interesting choices.
>
> I didn't see the choices you made mentioned in the blog, it's mostly an
> introduction/user manual.
That is a cor
Hi Leen,
> Yes, that is how I understood it.
>
> Your example used the model with bridged and DHCP-client in the container.
>
> I wonder what would be the models which fit best for the Freedombox.
>
My thoughts about this are:
1) Automatic configuration is good! Almost any potential FreedomB
Hi folks,
Today I came across Maidsafe (http://maidsafe.net/) which looks very
interesting for our FreedomBox project. Here are the features it
provides (copied from the projects website):
The MaidSafe vision is to replace today's existing server centric and
intrusive systems with a fully dist
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