Excuse me for such an intrusion
I'v seen a Tahoe-LAFS discussion and assumed
since you are discussing p2p variants for FreedomBox'es
maybe - here would be a specialists that could help us in
http://primarypad.com/OeMj2ZnZqo
discussion
part of our (XCCC) members are, currently, aiming into Freedom
please, take a look on XMPP initiatives for federated social staff
with security and privacy in mind.
XMPP is very flexible and mature stack of protocols, and, with all
respect, we'll need the flexibility.
i'll repost:
http://primarypad.com/OeMj2ZnZqo list,
there are - enough projects in various
>We're looking for user experience gurus to help us define how normal
>people can browse the Internet safely, without sharing their information
>with entities that are not supposed to be seeing who they talk to, where
>they go and what they're saying to each other.
what i need to add - is importan
>because cisco bought it ?
that's only - one, small, outcome ;)
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
+1
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Boaz wrote:
> Standard disclaimer: non-developer's thoughts follow.
>
>
>>We should not be segregating our work into systems for "normal people"
>>and "dissidents". To make that segregation implies two things:
>>
>>0) surveillance and corporate- or government-
> Neither, both. Freedom Box should be capable of being a
> Diaspora node, and also be capable of being a DFRN server.
i think so,
for example FreedomBox Foundation have the power to encourage XMPP networks use,
make a distributed Search stack based on something like
http://abmargb.blogspot.com
There are so many variants and ideas that need to
be brainstormed with people who would actually
use FreedomBox software and hardware,
still - don't bother and probably - won't join
mailing lists or lurk through wiki.
Mailing lists aren't a solution for a wide discussion,
even with Google Groups c
uld prefer Asynchronous communication. :)
strong point, but Etherpad encourages the result in Wiki alike style
but easily changeable, and far more user-friendly;
shortened-style tech talks have their place in chat,
like in -
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Marc Manthey wrote:
>
> On J
excuse me - broken link..
like in - chats that German police have
taken - http://etherpad.org/2011/05/20/german-police-raid-etherpad-deployment/
..
i'm joking , just can't find a nice long chat, except that i'v posted,
seems like there are - not many pad instances left with dashboard of
themes and
> We have an ambitious goal set out here. We need all the help we can get
> to do it right. It does not help the project to use language or make
> assumptions that can alienate large fractions of humanity. It's also rude.
+1 ,
i'm as a non-native English "user" recently couldn't find the prope
> I am interested about your opinion
+1 !
I'v heard of this or kind of - system a few years ago,
>automatically arrange connectivity when possible,
>both in ad hoc networks and using global infrastructure when
>available.
it's a very good idea, i think,
for example - FreedomBox with some
next g
in context:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Divide_and_conquer_algorithm
Let's say FreedomBox eventually (not planned, accidentally..)
saved gambling, porn and piracy with all the given - porn
on piracy portals, 0day portals with gambling Ads etc.)
Copyright issues is a differen
> I only mean to say that I have some doubts
> about the efficacy of on-list conversation, because I do not see much
> participation from members of the TAC.
That's, i think, the consequences of using mail-lists (among other).
What i'm trying
to explain in "Discussion system for FreedomBox Foundat
> Indeed, and in that "dividing into actionable parts" the problem is
> consensus: consensus that we need to break it down into parts, consensus
> on what parts, consensus on who defined the parts. To me this is
> independent from mailing-list / other communication. IMO it should come
> from TAC /
W3C FSW has - not only OStatus:
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/federatedsocialweb/wiki/Protocols
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/FederatedSocialWebCharter
nor - had - previous SW incubator -
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/XGR-socialweb/
i think - if something isn't m
> Freedombox is a bigger project than a Web project, but hopefully it
> will leverage the Web aspect for its users, as much as possible.
yes, that's why i named the topic "Working with.."
Another point is - web browser developers that can suit our needs - like Mozilla
now have - all that's needed
> There should definitely be a separate WG for user interface
> discussions, which so far now, has not received much attention on the
> list.
+1
>network
>protocols and privacy/identity distribution WG should be created.
+1
-
I think:
the easiest would create(Etherpad, yeah) - add to some wiki l
i want, i could help, however,
my time-lines is like in W3C - one working
day per week :)
I think - for the topic - also, it means UI-UX designers
from the used projects that contribute, could work
on the FreedomBox reference theme, even
in initial stages - because - they'r only who
could surely k
> Makes sense to leave it to each group how they operate. But please
> think twice before choosing cool-but-commercially-controlled tools at
> github or Google or Ubuntu or wherever: It might be fine initially with
> everyone in the group, but may discourage later contributions to that
> group fro
> How much separation do people see between the data ownership and
> social bits of the box?
i see - most of the participants hope that FBox will help in Leaving The Cloud,
particularly - centralized one. Not only - introducing FLOSS cloud but -
try to make a decentralized and own controlled as po
> with the addition of a group for thinking about
> connectivity.
Maybe useful in this way, also,
depending on whole-scale.
There are *danger* and pitfalls
in trying to make it all here - in this structure/place.
Basically, i think, this list is showing in some places,
the potential - of people t
Semantically-Interlinked Online Communities etc. discussion -
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111657459034372773496/posts/ZvS2KrBx8iF#111657459034372773496/posts/ZvS2KrBx8iF
WebID being mentioned ;)
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lis
according to
http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/fossil-v-git.wiki
"Fossil deliberately avoids rewriting history. Fossil strives to
follow the accountants philosophy of never erasing anything."
that's endangering privacy.
-
maybe - https://identi.ca/group/codetube
could help, if it
there far more than YaCy
to distributed search,
i'm really disappointed that
> We've always considered search to be somewhat beyond
> the scope of the FreedomBox
as if in any system - FreedomBox seems best for it,
in Plugs or not.
using DDG or Scroogle - isn't Leaving the Cloud
and i'v though -
> You mean the Freedombox foundation? Why is that? We're in the business of
> distributing/'dehierarchizing' things - as far as I'm concerned, that's FB's
> main mission. Search is a very important web tool. Not as important as a
> distributed alternative to DNS, but more important than distrib
> using DDG or Scroogle - isn't Leaving the Cloud
> Not missing this, because a lot of us are using it
for sure, and even Seeks Project - isn't Leaving the Cloud.
the sad thing that - even Seeks Project PM says that
distributed search (crawl/indexing) isn't possible here/now/etc.
it's complicated
i think - http://www.w3.org/2011/04/webrtc-charter.html
(http://webrtc.org) and related working groups
are best for VOIP, Video over IP and whatever media over IP P2P
communications,
their propositions are evolving rapidly and in overall -
these systems - we may create - are needed anyway,
so - be
please note i'm not saying Firefox is not Freedom, it's, obviously,
one of the most open and successful FLOSS, i really love it and i
delightfully use it from the very start,
but - it seems like IceCat is having the niche that could be more
than just a GNU browser, it seems for me.
>You have som
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements/
is a currently proposed use-cases and requirements that browser vendor
would likely to conform,
since it's a draft FBox could propose all what's needed
on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/
the conversati
> But i never heard of any "opensouce" peer 2 peer projects . anyone else ?
besides WebRTC, you mean?
looking at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?search_submit=&activeDrafts=on&rfcs=on&name=rtc&sortBy=date
this RTC would be the most documented, easily deploy-able and could be
advanced in
+1
useful pad - http://dns-p2p.openpad.me/1?
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> not being funny or anything folks but the timescales for getting this
> software running needs to be stepped up. including as i've repeatedly
> mentioned on-list (and have recei
i'll not mention the possible need for ERP again:)
what i know - there are, definitely, a lot of existing projects in various
states, i think - making from what's already in Debian reps is controversial
desicion, however - why not if world needs FBox v.0 really soon.
PS: i think - so many usefu
about WebRTC:
there are mailing lists - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/
and RTC-Web on
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?search_submit=&activeDrafts=on&name=rtc&rfcs=on&sortBy=date
also - http://groups.google.com/group/discuss-webrtc - seems like for
final feedback after
> Additionally, I think you haven't really gotten my point if you think
> that the proposals on this mailing list are "useful". They are useful to
> exactly the extent that they result in a FreedomBox getting made. So
> far, that means they are not at all useful, since no FreedomBox exists
> yet.
> I would like investigate solutions to sharing the
> ownership of physical infrastructure, even including
> whether users could co-own the hardware for Clouds
> in Freedom-Preserving datacenters.
> There are sometimes great benefits to sharing the
> ownership of things like a communication satell
"for some places" is not a grammar misuse, i think - some cities,
villages etc. as a social objects could socially benefit from such a
collaborative "building".)
@James Vasile
nice work!
you'r post is, definitely, needs to be discussed on etherpad..
i think - by what i'v described in Censorshi
> I personally don't see Freedombox as either a GNU project or a Debian
> project. I think Freedombox may include some GNU project applications,
> and is based on Debian, but Freedombox is it's own project.
+1.
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedo
FreedomNode is nice, FreedomBox isn't - if won't find the better
shortening than FB :))
i propose FBX
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discus
i haven't found the list Search, so - maybe it's a duplicate.
Given that project has a Donate button and Kickstarter achievement,
considering popularity:
1. Are there/will there be - a Paid members of a FBox team?
like a paid PM's for a WG's, for example.
2. Will there be an open tracking syste
> I would like this group to have a goal to separate data from the
> applications, i.e. data can be easily exported to other applications using
> open file formats. I would also like to see a goal of one click update for
> all installed applications, i.e. applications that upgrade on the fly as
> o
> I don't really care what you call it, but at the back of my mind I can't
> help thinking that the FreedomBox name scares everyday people into thinking
> that FreedomBox is for Freedom Fighters only. I want everybody to have own.
I think Freedom in the name is very important,
for me - it is a Fre
> Nobody else seems to be wanting Etherpad,
there was a couple of people who expressed for it, at least.
>Since the consensus is against it, would you please drop it?
i'v seen only you - finally - against.
> would you please drop it?
no problem, i'm not their PR.
Just - i have used it and i hav
Particularly (thanks to GMail search)
Marc Manthey m...@let.de said
> "live" is allways much better,
> because questions appear in between a discussion or
> driving in another direction, so its more inspirational and creativ.
and
> good thing !!
Isaac Wilder is...@freenetworkmovement.org
>I a
> These emails have one big advantage: I can store them locally and
> use the archive offline. For the same reason I do not participate
> in web forums.
ok 2:2 :)
@Erich
interesting case
so - we should vote up on mailing, also?
well, maybe - not so bad,
so - creating here a lists with projects rel
offtopic follows..
@James Vasile
Mailman also has an option
to avoid duplicates, can't remember if
it's on by default, but - for me - all this config everytime,
where you are using mailmans month after month is
annoying. Damping the old mail from archives to search
through - also.
However - thank
> One ideal for the FreedomBox is that it be self hosting. All the
> servers it relies on should be other FreedomBoxes. That's a lofty goal,
> though, and it would take a *lot* of time to make that reality.
+1
more or less, Tor network is helping now,
so there are a potential and chance in the
> REQUIRED SOFTWARE DOESN'T EXIST.
i'd say
REQUIRED SOFTWARE NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED TO THE CONCRETE NEEDS.
as - the software around the idea - exist but not focused for the
concrete mega-project
like FBX may be.
generally - i agree with your opinion,
given that i'v seen the comments - that
FBX wou
> President to decide
and after - to post it here as a final agreement?
that's the context i'm talking in.
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-
Funny demonstration - http://collusion.toolness.org/
and another non-tracking extension..
+1 for some Freedom Browser
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/f
i'm mixed architect+builder
Charles N Wyble
please, invite me!
http://freenetworkfoundation.org/?page_id=222
where is the hottest and totally freedom discussion
of workers, now?
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.
> I wonder if a wg for the internationalization of the project would be
> necessary: many free software projects have a i18n "wg"
+1 for i18n WG
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.or
Good day!
so, here is the shiny new Mozilla initiative for mobile OS:
http://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G
https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platform/browse_thread/thread/7668a9d46a43e482#
anybody here - want to collaborate on forking or other methods of
creating the Freedom, Secure, pro-Private
completely nobody?
(hint: where are mobiles there are small boxes)
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:23 AM, ya knygar wrote:
> Good day!
>
> so, here is the shiny new Mozilla initiative for mobile OS:
> http://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G
> https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platfor
> I'd suggest the name 'Freeroam Box'
i like it, funny and clever;
i think the mentioned free network is realistic
way - both to distribute free internet and free communication
at a whole,
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/OpenBTS
"below $1 per month per subscriber" is a strong point
Great news, Marc,
thank you!
http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/raspberry-pi-25-pc-goes-into-alpha-production-20110728/
amazing,
i hope FreedomBox TAC would contact and inspire this project,
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/07/28/why-doesnt-the-uk-have-it_n_911915.html
interesting article,
"
> lets build a swarm of freedomrouters
i have contacted EvoGrid about distributive
computing in XCCC social systems we make,
they seems interested, so if FBX would include
some among XCCC it would be a nice chance ;)
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
> Rhizome file sharing and software
> updating, Ushahidi-style mapping and real-time crowd-sourced
> incident/issue plotting among others.
sounds fun!
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.deb
Hello,
a truly great first goal,
counter-attack the swamps of mailing lists!
so the drops would settle in some wiki,
i'd say that Wikipedia is more important place,
but it's just my preference.
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lis
> yes, any sort of FBX proposal that entirely drops support for existing
> DNS is going to have very poor adoption rates. We shouldn't shoot
> ourselves in the foot like that. However, we should also provide
> mechanisms for people to participate in a naming scheme that is more
> resistant to pow
helpful information,
thank you, mirsal!
could you recommend the resources for further reading,
like community forums?
i guess - some of the most interesting would be in these darnets
themselves..
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@l
> I'm mostly
> interested in the user interface side of things, so I'll be really
> curious to see what's cooking there.
i think - UI-UX is a neck of this project for a mass-user,
(networking is a head, in this case :)
i hope(i can't see other proper variants) - this project would
use the web apps
thank you,
nice summary,
> Another thing that became fairly clear to me during discussions at Debconf is
> that in the near term, planning to build communication services around XMPP
> is the approach most likely to give good results. Investigating the software
> choices available to build an i
it's http://primarypad.com/OeMj2ZnZqo
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
host-proof hosting vs. instant data liberation -
https://groups.google.com/group/unhosted/browse_thread/thread/52bfbe9c7117df84
what do you think?
Web Apps hosting along with web apps identity, API design patterns and
conditions, p2p clouds..
- all are the topics of increased interest among Moz
Does it mean -
we should(could) organize the "Social networking for Freedombox's" meeting
on this chat? on 15th?
Or - do you think - it's better to make a separately, some other day?
The topic is pretty important. And could be considerably huge on discussion..
> Why is the project
> evaluating software that's still in development when there are more *mature*
> social networking applications such as Friendika, Elgg, Jappix etc around?
because in Buddycloud we all trust, it seems :)
They would have a really Hadooped se
see - https://drumbeat.org/en-US/pr
I need to add for Friendika that - it is a case where kind of politics come in,
when you use Friendika with an old protocol (or classic Fr, anyway)
you get "Two-way and private communications are not yet available on
all networks, and in a few cases these abilities are not possible due
to limitatio
Hi Jonas, please ask them -
What programming languages does the latest Buddycloud use/plans to use?
Do that plan to work with FreedomBox, will they attend the 15th August chat
on "Social networking with FreedomBox's"?
I know that their channels search engine(directory) is in Java
and would be, as
Hi there!
@Marc
thank you,
> CoffeeScript
is being used for XCCC ShareJS,
i think it's nice and i'v read that Brendan Eich
(the creator and one of the maintainers of JS)
have been considering it's a base work(among other)
for future of JS/Harmony.
I hope that kind of languages would be used for a
I'll describe one of my points on the problem, shortly.
As you could see - the most of alive FLOSS social networking projects are
in a process of migrating to a lite, un-coupled platforms, some hot new DB's,
all to make it useful fast and everywhere, i think it's right future for FBX
networks, as
> We can overcome this by paying our users-as-micro-investors
> with the Product itself (in this case 'connectivity') and will never
> even need to sell the Product (since the users are the owners
> already), causing Profit to be undefined and Price to equal Cost
Hello Patrick,
i'll re-post
http:/
> I have seen many social networking sites that have added bling which looks
> cool initially but becomes jagged quite quickly, forcing the sites in a
> never-ending bling upgrade cycle. IMHO, FBX should keep the UI simple, but
> offer FBX users the option to upgrade their web-front end "theme"
for a FreedomBases with a social networking:
My strong position -
- we are doing the social networks, social projects, what-ever that
would make at least in itself - the kind of what Semantic Web wasn't able for.
It Should persist the data as perfectly as FLOSS community tools would
be able to pr
> Actually it's more a problem that the project doc (the wiki) isn't really
used
ha!
that's what i'v told,
that Wiki is not a quick, usable experience,
so use
https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite/wiki/Sites-that-run-Etherpad-Lite
search there for stable or ask FBX to host it :)
enlist all the pos
I think for a FreedomBase there should be used
a at least a RAID5
Given the current price of terabyte it shouldn't
be to expensive to use a 3HDD's.
Well - it would be expensive but not more than
a cheap netbook.
for a CloudStor:
1 usb and one RJ-45 are a certain disadvantages.
I wonder how long is
> I don't think that the FBX project should try to implement/be yet another
> social network. Even if it will *be* a network, the "social network" part of
> it as commonly understood should be ran by a dedicated app
sure, but FBX should clearly describe and develop its other mechanisms
like Identi
DDR3 is a neeed.
>the fact that its manufacturer respects the
> GPL
+1
-
while
>Gigabit Ethernet
and
>PCI-e
is a nice
features, especially PCI-e
i think,
but
maybe
>SATA-II
and
>USB2, USB-OTG
could be replaced by the USB 3.0 to make the FreedomBases closer?
and ease the need for PCI-e and Gigabit
i'v been following it for a while,
great project if it will succeed, i think
if connected with http://telehash.org/
i think it would be a kind of webrtc.org but for apps data,
these kinds of project is what i have talked about on chat
today -- without a global proposition (i don't say Lockers
has n
>collaborative document editing in emacs??
no, https://github.com/nornagon/sharevim =)
(SJS is among XCCC that is on pad that is on that Debian wiki)
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.deb
>I see no problem in shipping FreedomBox with a web client to help those
>crippled to (right now) only have the web part of the internet at reach.
XMPP web client
> If 100% of routers/ap/switch/servers/network-equipment come with a web
> GUI for configuration, probably there's a reason.
yep, and
> I
> believe that we will have either to lobby for more open spectrum, or,
> in all likelihood, engage in civil disobedience.
seems like,
better to provide all the possible variants, though.
The less disturbance - the cleaner win.
___
Freedombox-discus
> The advantage of having WebIDs here is that people don't have to give out
> their e-mail addresses, btw. Needing to reveal those only when necessary. But
> that still requires building the infrastructure.
yeah, but BrowserID as another example is also quite elegant and light
approach, n-1.cc pr
well,
>proved like a
> pretty fine approach.
proved like a fine for a start, kind of - better than plain OID for me.
In other it is not a nice experience, but BID promises to be.
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian
> A comparison between browser-id
thank you,
we are looking on the WebID as good as on BID's
these are among our main consideration now.
I don't saying we are pro's in identity, in any way..
I have contacted http://www.identitywoman.net/
for the Open AR (kind of migrating to Freedom AR) initiative
however BrowserID is for browsers, obviously, for web.
Identity is a hardest topic i know - to decide on - now,
with XCCC we are considering all these from W3C and others,
semantic goods, ofc.
still can't make the decision, currently.
It all should relate to SocNets, distributed DB's that could be
I would argue FOR the inclusion
as most of the current sites - needs the mail to log in
as most of the current apps - need the mail to log in
as most of the current conversations (oh, i hope not,
but there was some stats, not so old) - are being done with mail
as BrowserID or other mail-based ID w
> Is there anybody else interested to see such a concept extended to our mobile
> devices?
if you are talking on something like personal TV broadcast --
sure, there are many people who want to run their own IPTV channel but
there are increasingly an attempt to validate it all under the
considerabl
> (non-human-readable, OpenPGP or some other fingerprinting standard)
> 1) the freedombox itself could publish its own routing information (DNS
> records? something else?), signed by its own public key so that it is
> clear (and verifiable) how to reach the machine at the moment.
https://tools.ie
-- we'll invite the
people here to some topics which seems
better suited there, even such as that Censorship, i think.
Generally - you could subscribe right now and there would be at least
something interesting.
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Marc Manthey wrote:
>
> On Aug 31, 2011,
+1 for Sam Hartman's message
..
i think the choice of non-PHP whenever is possible
should be made by the evidence
- that - it's often much easier to maintain and actively develop
something big, still - considerably high quality with a Python, for example.
With all the respect -- we may compare the
hello,
for - identity
i suggest FBXF to work with identitycommons.net
there would be important http://www.identitywoman.net/iiw-13-october-18-20
http://www.idcommons.org/internet-identity-workshop-13-october-18-20-in-mountain-view-4/
i think -
Identity is one of the most difficult decisions for
we/you would need to breath the life to the FederatedSocialWeb.net
before we/you would see it, probably ;)
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-d
g planned
- for this,
or it is all by hand and meant like it would be ok for
dedicated users of fbx's , for example?
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Melvin Carvalho
wrote:
> On 14 September 2011 14:11, ya knygar wrote:
>> we/you would need to breath the life to the FederatedSoc
i think - it is - affordable personal servers with self-hosted email instances
that would help the
> get the word out that each individual already has the means to control
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM,
wrote:
> Those wonderful folks the Entrepreneurs are creating some real
> goldmines for th
iven that 'anything' of the current gen Web
- by identity management, is, anyway - tightened to the email accounts..>?
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Melvin Carvalho
wrote:
> On 14 September 2011 21:30, ya knygar wrote:
>>> It's alive as far as I know. :)
>>
> seamless upgrades.
+ 1 (i'm just passing by :)
___
Freedombox-discuss mailing list
Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
> As smartphones are currently spreading like brushfire in the developing world,
> no plug computers will be able to match the volume and hence the
> capabilities/price.
+1, adding the:
- mobility
- UPS-ability (crucial for the servers, isn't it?)
- multifunctional use-cases
..
> Android might b
> Young blokes beginning to see the uptake of a new project and eyeing
> Zuckerburg potentials is how I see it.
lol, the food should be on the tables, or it would be diaspora of
hobos, isn't it.
Looking forward the Buddycloud's Search engine to rule the Google's lazy search.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011
anything without concurrent editing (think Wave) is uncool at this time ;)
anything without approach to the Federated Social Web ideals and
standardization is just another joke.
i could recommend at least 4 good variants that worth donating and
other support that would really make the difference.
> We've been keeping an eye on the Serval Project for a while. They
> have a slightly different but still compatible goal in mind
> (telephony, as opposed to a general purpose data network). One of the
> ways we differ is that we are not designing custom hardware for
> Byzantium, preferring inste
100 matches
Mail list logo
