[Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-22 Thread John Walsh
Hi Everybody, There has been been a lot of heated and name calling on the mailing list recently; On 11-07-21 at 05:38pm, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > this is a complex project WHERE THE REQUIRED SOFTWARE DOESN'T EXIST. > have i said it enough times, you think?? Yes. One time was one

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-22 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 18:49 +1000, John Walsh wrote: > if there is a genuine opportunity to contribute my thoughts and ideas There is space for everybody to contribute ideas and thoughts. There is also a caveat: discussions with hundreds of highly opinionated people can get very confusing. My sug

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-22 Thread nathan nolast
i disagree with you analysis if freedombox exists to only use existing services/applications/tools/protocols, then the incentive for users to purchase a freedombox only to use it for a task that can already be achieved on ones personal computer would be extremely low. Im not buying another plugser

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-22 Thread Tony Farese
Cool story. I'm just a philosopher that will be quiet and throw money at the project. Id really like it if there were a few options sponsored by the foundation. So I could contribute to specific pieces. Anyway, much love to you all. On Jul 22, 2011 11:04 AM, "nathan nolast" wrote: i disagree wit

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-24 Thread Craig Barnes
This is my first contribution to the list, but I think this is probably the first time I would have a view of any value to others. I am most certainly in the philosopher camp so far but I am a contributor wannabe. like I am of the firm belief that there are no (or at least very few) futile discuss

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-24 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 07/24/2011 05:11 PM, Craig Barnes wrote: This is my first contribution to the list, but I think this is probably the first time I would have a view of any value to others. Excellent. My understanding of the freedom-box project is that it will only use existing Debian packages, which shou

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-24 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 07/22/2011 03:49 AM, John Walsh wrote: Hi Everybody, There has been been a lot of heated and name calling on the mailing list recently; Hmmm. I think it's the first great discussion to happen on this list with any real meaning. I think this is quite disappointing for a project with such hi

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-24 Thread FreedomBox-Discuss . NeoPhyte_Rep
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 3:42 PM, char...@knownelement.com wrote: > > I've thrown my effort behind Byzantium/FreedomNode > "The goal of Project Byzantium is to develop a communication system by which users can connect to each other and share information in the absence of convenient access to the In

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-24 Thread John Walsh
Hi Stef, > Behalf Of Stefano Maffulli > My suggestion is to hang in there, stay calm, read and write > your thoughts in an civil manner. Time will also help clear > the landscape. Thank you for your words of encouragement. > > Stay tuned for news from DebConf, you'll be able to follow > the ta

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox Conspiracy Theory

2011-07-25 Thread John Walsh
Hi Nathan, On Behalf Of nathan nolast i disagree with you analysis if freedombox exists to only use existing services/applications/tools/protocols, then the incentive for users to purchase a freedombox only to use it for a task that can already be achieved on ones personal computer would be ex