On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 13:21 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> When I referred to "these" attacks going away, I was talking about
> implementations
> of the Kaminsky attack, or efforts to link an IP address with a
> transaction even
> without connecting to all nodes (say, making inferences from the da
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> From: Ted Smith
> To: freedombox-discuss
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox and Bitcoin (and the petition)
>
[...]
> For reference, it's really, really, really hard to ta
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 22:11 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> My initial point might not have been clear. To keep an ISP from spying it
> makes
> no sense to grab a different IP from the pool every time you view a web page--
> this will not impede the ISP from reviewing their log of your activity i
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> From: Ted Smith
> To: "freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org"
>
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox and Bitcoin (and the petition)
>
> On Mon, 2012-11-12 at
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 14:13 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> I'm with you so far.
>
> >
> > When the attacker has the IP address of a Bitcoin address, they're one
> > step away from getting the underlying home address -- but they have to
> > go through either the legal system or an existing attac
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>
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox and Bitcoin (and the petition)
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> On Mon, 2012-11-12 at
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 11:56 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >
> > The Bitcoin transaction log records transactions between addresses. If
> > you never change your Bitcoin address, the transaction log will
> > accumulate records of your transactions.
> >
> > Without a very significant amount of w
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> From: Ted Smith
> To: freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox and Bitcoin (and the petition)
>
> On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 10:28 -0800,
On 12/11/12 19:43, Ted Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 10:28 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> With very little work (running Tor and using new addresses), you can
> anonymize your Bitcoin participation to the same extent you could
> anything.
>
> Further, is the FBX going to tunnel all traffi
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 10:28 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
> > From: Daniel Pocock
> > To: freedombox list
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 3:32 AM
> > Subject: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox and Bitcoin (and the p
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> From: Daniel Pocock
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> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 3:32 AM
> Subject: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox and Bitcoin (and the petition)
>
>
>
> I'm just wondering if anybody has done any analysis of
On 12 November 2012 13:43, Natanael Arndt wrote:
> Am 12.11.2012 13:29, schrieb Eugen Leitl:
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 01:15:53PM +0100, Natanael Arndt wrote:
> >
> >> I don't say it is impossible to run a BitCoin client on a FreedomBox but
> >> I say the systembehind is not good, because it re
Am 12.11.2012 13:29, schrieb Eugen Leitl:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 01:15:53PM +0100, Natanael Arndt wrote:
>
>> I don't say it is impossible to run a BitCoin client on a FreedomBox but
>> I say the systembehind is not good, because it rewards people for
>> burning electricity to get the virtual cu
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 01:15:53PM +0100, Natanael Arndt wrote:
> I don't say it is impossible to run a BitCoin client on a FreedomBox but
> I say the systembehind is not good, because it rewards people for
> burning electricity to get the virtual currency, that's not better than
At the current d
Am 12.11.2012 12:43, schrieb Eugen Leitl:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:01:31PM +0100, Natanael Arndt wrote:
>> I don't know why BitCoin or Money in general should be somehow
>> integrated in the FreedomBox project? Furthermore I think BitCoin is no
>> good concept e.g. because of the huge amount of
2012/11/12 Melvin Carvalho
>
>
> On 12 November 2012 09:32, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I'm just wondering if anybody has done any analysis of the suitability
>> of Bitcoin for FreedomBox?
>>
>
> Bitcoin is quite resource intensive, the block chain is large and growing,
> so to set it up tak
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:59:57AM +0100, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> Bitcoin is quite resource intensive,
It isn't. It works on smartphones and tablets, over 3G.
> the block chain is large and growing,
You don't need fully validating clients. You don't have
to connect to hundreds of peers, eithe
On 12/11/12 12:43, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:01:31PM +0100, Natanael Arndt wrote:
>> I don't know why BitCoin or Money in general should be somehow
>> integrated in the FreedomBox project? Furthermore I think BitCoin is no
>> good concept e.g. because of the huge amount of ele
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:01:31PM +0100, Natanael Arndt wrote:
> I don't know why BitCoin or Money in general should be somehow
> integrated in the FreedomBox project? Furthermore I think BitCoin is no
> good concept e.g. because of the huge amount of electricity just burned
You don't need to min
I don't know why BitCoin or Money in general should be somehow
integrated in the FreedomBox project? Furthermore I think BitCoin is no
good concept e.g. because of the huge amount of electricity just burned
to get some virtual money, as the "lottery" comparison says.
But I like the idea of Melvin
I'm just wondering if anybody has done any analysis of the suitability
of Bitcoin for FreedomBox?
For example, Bitcoin provides a certain amount of anonymity, but not
complete privacy. In other words, anybody can create an anonymous
Bitcoin account, but anyone else can trace the movements of Bi
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