Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

2011-08-07 Thread John Gilmore
> Along the lines - it's clear that FreedomBox lack of full-time > dedicated developers in all areas. > I think it's due to unclear money-rising and resource planning policy ... > Experienced developers, architects, designers aren't fighting for > it(FBX), because they work full-day on other, paid

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

2011-08-08 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi! Good topic, I'll try to give my point of view on commercial vs. volunteer developer work, for what it's worth. I don't want to talk people into taking risky decisions in their lives, and there are some preconditions to the whole 'quit your dayjob' thing: - not have any kids that rely on you fi

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

2011-08-08 Thread Tony Farese
I would donate $ in a heartbeat. I know nothing about programing but want to support the project. I will be following the thread. Good work. On Aug 8, 2011 4:00 AM, "Michiel de Jong" wrote: Hi! Good topic, I'll try to give my point of view on commercial vs. volunteer developer work, for what it

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

2011-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-08-08 at 12:19pm, Tony Farese wrote: > I would donate $ in a heartbeat. I know nothing about programing but > want to support the project. I will be following the thread. Good > work. Donate to whom? The one most loud on this mailinglist? Or the one most disciplined? OR seeming most cl

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

2011-08-08 Thread David Edmondson
* d...@jones.dk [2011-08-08 Mon 18:04] > I recommend googling/duckduckgo'ing for dunc-tank (yes, with "c") and > read up on that experiment of throwing money at Debian developers a few > years back. I read your comments as dismissive of the general idea yet the dunc-tank experiment didn't seem a

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

2011-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi David, On 11-08-08 at 06:26pm, David Edmondson wrote: > * d...@jones.dk [2011-08-08 Mon 18:04] > > I recommend googling/duckduckgo'ing for dunc-tank (yes, with "c") > > and read up on that experiment of throwing money at Debian > > developers a few years back. > > I read your comments as dis

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

2011-08-08 Thread David Edmondson
* d...@jones.dk [2011-08-08 Mon 18:55] > As expected, however, you seem to just rely on others making wise > decisions on your behalf on this matter. Our society is based on the elective surrender of responsibility to others. I didn't argue that it was right or best, just that it was simplest. Ma

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

2011-08-08 Thread Rick
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:09 PM, David Edmondson wrote: > * d...@jones.dk [2011-08-08 Mon 18:55] > > As expected, however, you seem to just rely on others making wise > > decisions on your behalf on this matter. > > Many of the people who are not in a position to actively contribute in a > non-fin

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Paid FB developers

2011-08-08 Thread John Gilmore
> I am curious to hear how those in favor of paying some contributions > believe it will affect other contributions. Sometimes people think that if some contributors are paid and others are volunteer, the volunteers will feel slighted and won't contribute. My experience is that it's possible to gr