Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:33:58 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Tim Small t...@seoss.co.uk wrote: On 17/08/11 15:00, Gordan Bobic wrote: Marvell is pretty good. Whether that is through Marvell's contribution or not I don't know, but in

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net wrote:  so it depends what's more important to the freedombox foundation.  to put out a message that it's ok that CPU Manufacturers are dishonourable and only provide information under NDA, and we, the FreedomBox Foundation fully

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Tim Small t...@seoss.co.uk wrote: On 17/08/11 15:00, Gordan Bobic wrote: Marvell is pretty good. Whether that is through Marvell's contribution or not I don't know, but in terms of what the end user gets to work with, it's seldom matched and hard to beat.

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net wrote: in the first place), why has the MX53QSB not been chosen as the board for the freedombox foundation to honour its obligations to its kickstarter sponsors? Another thing worth considering is the cost. SheevaPlugs go for

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:21:43 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net wrote: in the first place), why has the MX53QSB not been chosen as the board for the freedombox foundation to honour its obligations to its

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Tim Small
On 17/08/11 15:00, Gordan Bobic wrote: Marvell is pretty good. Whether that is through Marvell's contribution or not I don't know, but in terms of what the end user gets to work with, it's seldom matched and hard to beat. They are definitely better than some, but OTOH, they don't appear to

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Sébastien BOCAHU
Damn, multiple mailing lists, some missing bits... Difficult to follow.  so it depends what's more important to the freedombox foundation.  to put out a message that it's ok that CPU Manufacturers are dishonourable and only provide information under NDA, and we, the FreedomBox Foundation

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:38:02 +0200, Sébastien BOCAHU li...@zecrazytux.net wrote: Also, I believe that such a freedom box should take the place of the ISP box. Otherwise, there could be networking troubles (not evereryone knows how to configure his box, do some NAT and so on) and what's the

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:33:58PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: interesting. so. with that in mind, why has the marvell CPU been chosen as the flagship product for the freedombox foundation to honour its obligations to its kickstarter sponsors? so i'll ask again: with

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:40:00PM +0100, Gordan Bobic wrote: Another thing worth considering is the cost. SheevaPlugs go for about $99, and they don't require anything else to be functional - just plug in and go. The Freescale boards you mention cost 50% more (without the discount), and still

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net wrote:  Maybe I'm missing something here, but if if you want to do that you  might as well scrap the Freedombox project and use one of the new  Samsung routers with OpenWRT. OpenWRT is a full fat Linux and runs on a  lot of

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:33:58PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:  interesting.  so.  with that in mind, why has the marvell CPU been chosen as the flagship product for the freedombox

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-18 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: snip unrelatedness  corr, bloody hell this was hard to find.  it should be right up there on the overview specs, and it isn't. _eventually_ i found this:  

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-17 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:39:17 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: [ um... freedombox people... tell me... why was the shitty little NDA-loving armv5 marvell sheeva guwwu pwug chosen over the freedom-respecting really rather dishy little IMX53QSB? i realise it's good to

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-13 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 08/13/2011 02:46 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: This sort of question should always be considered in the context of the lead time, i.e. in 9 months time when TI and NVidia and Freescale (etc.) have

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-13 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net wrote: On 08/13/2011 02:46 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:   ok, right.  continuing on the discussion of upcoming and/or available Cortex A9 systems, i heard back from one of the CPU manufacturers (can't say which one),

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] [Arm-netbook] Single-Core Cortex A9 1ghz, ECC DDR3 RAM available soon

2011-08-13 Thread Baybal Ni
Hello everyone, I'm glad to hear that we advanced in negotiations even that little. In my opinion, just getting started is already good invariably of how we do it. Starting with entry level mainstream SoC is completely OK. We can scale up it later as many times as we want. About the price.