Re: [Freedos-devel] Do not use any code from ms-dos releASE!

2014-03-26 Thread Charles Belhumeur
Tough line to walk folks! You wanna clone DOS but yet you don't want "to be tainted" by any suggestions you owe anything to DOS! Think that over a little. Say it to yourself and see how it sounds. It doesn't matter what the OS is for a lot of stuff. The Intel chips and architecture are what th

Re: [Freedos-devel] Weird behaviour of "legacy USB" trackball

2014-03-26 Thread Charles Belhumeur
I wasn't talking about 16 bit in general. Its that DOS is simply structured and coded. the bits of code could count on being the only thing active in RAM and the CPU when executing. No need to be polite or "well behaved". There was a simple hierarchy of simple calls directly to the hardware. Tim

Re: [Freedos-devel] Do not use any code from ms-dos releASE!

2014-03-26 Thread Jim Hall
Definitely. I'll add a warning that if you download and study the MS-DOS source code, you should not contribute code to FreeDOS afterwards. We want to avoid any suggestion that FreeDOS has been "tainted" by this proprietary code. (I've also included this warning in the "Microsoft releases source

Re: [Freedos-devel] Do not use any code from ms-dos releASE!

2014-03-26 Thread Chris Evans
an opensource dos is best -- -chris Computer Consultant & Repair Tech Digitalatoll Solutions Group Tawhaki Software http://digitalatoll.com/ http://tawakisoft.com/ Cell: 916-612-6904 On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:25 PM, sparky4 wrote: > read the licence and find out why! > -- > with love, > sparky

Re: [Freedos-devel] Do not use any code from ms-dos releASE!

2014-03-26 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, sparky4 wrote: > read the licence and find out why! This should ABSOLUTELY go without saying. -uso. -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.

[Freedos-devel] Do not use any code from ms-dos releASE!

2014-03-26 Thread sparky4
read the licence and find out why! -- with love, sparky4 Administrator of 四葉の芽◇ちゃんねる -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourcef

Re: [Freedos-devel] Weird behaviour of "legacy USB" trackball

2014-03-26 Thread Ralf Quint
On 3/26/2014 2:23 AM, Charles Belhumeur wrote: > You know, I just had a thought folks. Maybe FreeDOS should have been > a 64 bit version right from the start. Why couldn't a 386 mode OS be > written that looked and behaved like real mode DOS be written? You'd > need some kind of low order shell t

Re: [Freedos-devel] Weird behaviour of "legacy USB" trackball

2014-03-26 Thread Bret Johnson
> The point I'm making is DOS is a "duh" dumb as a stick OS. Not true. Just because DOS is not multi-tasking or multi-threaded or doesn't natively use protected mode doesn't make it "dumber" than mainstream OS's -- just different. In fact, it's vastly superior (aka "smarter") for certain kind

Re: [Freedos-devel] Weird behaviour of "legacy USB" trackball

2014-03-26 Thread Charles Belhumeur
You know, I just had a thought folks. Maybe FreeDOS should have been a 64 bit version right from the start. Why couldn't a 386 mode OS be written that looked and behaved like real mode DOS be written? You'd need some kind of low order shell to have backward compatibility with real mode stuff. but

Re: [Freedos-devel] Weird behaviour of "legacy USB" trackball

2014-03-26 Thread Charles Belhumeur
Is there a reason you have to use that specific mouse hardware? Or is this just hobby wanking to kill time and learn some stuff? (I've done my share back in the day.) I guess I should make this point for all the FreeDOS community. This is kind of characteristic of DOS back in the old days. I've

[Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 2.0 source code released

2014-03-26 Thread Somchai Smythe
FYI, The MS-DOS 2.0 source code has been released, albiet under a rather draconian license. See here for details: http://www.computerhistory.org/_static/atchm/microsoft-ms-dos-early-source-code/ The download also includes MS-DOS 1.1 source code too. JGH ---