Re: [Freedos-devel] 32-bit FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread M Vrm
Hello all, I can do the development. I have time and like programming (i have an own OS "bird os"...yes i like birds). If that was the question. But my question is, why should you switch tot 32-bit? It have a lot features But MS-DOS is and was 16-bit. If we switch to 32-bit do you get Windows ra

Re: [Freedos-devel] 32-bit FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread Georg Potthast
On Friday, May 29, 2015, Eric Auer wrote: >FD32 runs more parts in 32-bit, but the advantages compared to using a >classic DOS together with a DPMI compatible DOS extender are minimal. Exactly. -- _

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows for Workgroups and FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread perditionc
I did some testing in VirtualBox, and yes the current kernel does not work in Windows 3.1 enhanced mode (you must use my 0xDC kernel [see FDOS project on SF], but I couldn't get the DOS boxes to work anymore). I will have to do some checking as I expected either to work. When running Windows 3.x,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 2.0

2015-05-28 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Correction... FreeDOS 1.2. Not 2.0. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > Hi, > > If I were building the FreeDOS distribution, the only thing that would be > included as a part of the official FreeDOS install would be the components > that make up the OS depending on the MS/PC

Re: [Freedos-devel] 32-bit FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread Eric Auer
Hi :-) > 1. Start FreeDOS (16-bit mode) 2. Start FreeDOS-32 via a separate > executable (it would only be installed if it detected a 32-bit > capable processor), perhaps call it FD32. It would switch to > protected mode and spawn a protected mode shell. http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ already

Re: [Freedos-devel] 32-bit FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Thu, 28 May 2015, Antony Gordon wrote: Here’s one possibility: 1. Start FreeDOS (16-bit mode) 2. Start FreeDOS-32 via a separate executable (it would only be installed if it detected a 32-bit capable processor), perhaps call it FD32. It would switch to protected mode and spawn a protected

Re: [Freedos-devel] 32-bit FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread Antony Gordon
Here’s one possibility: 1. Start FreeDOS (16-bit mode) 2. Start FreeDOS-32 via a separate executable (it would only be installed if it detected a 32-bit capable processor), perhaps call it FD32. It would switch to protected mode and spawn a protected mode shell. The other possibility During the

Re: [Freedos-devel] 32-bit FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread Georg Potthast
My thought is: who shall do the development? There is no one around that would spend the time to develop this. - Original Message - From: "Antony Gordon" To: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:47 PM Subject: [Freedos-devel] 32-

Re: [Freedos-devel] 32-bit FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Agreed, that was my exact line of thinking. However, the folks here seem to have come to the conclusion that FreeDOS will not evolve into the 32-bit realm. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > I was re-reading some emails and I think I have an idea of how this would > work. >

[Freedos-devel] 32-bit FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread Antony Gordon
I was re-reading some emails and I think I have an idea of how this would work. The goal is existing compatibility so that older DOS applications will run. Obviously, moving to 32-bit will eliminate most of the older processors, HOWEVER. by implementing a Windows 9x like model and build a 32-bi

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 2.0

2015-05-28 Thread Antony Gordon
Hi, If I were building the FreeDOS distribution, the only thing that would be included as a part of the official FreeDOS install would be the components that make up the OS depending on the MS/PC DOS version distribution we wanted to emulate. I would also supply these files as one complete ZIP

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 2.0

2015-05-28 Thread J.K. Benedict
I agree to exclude it. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: Mercury Thirteen Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 15:52 To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Reply To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. Subject: [Freedos-devel] FreeD

[Freedos-devel] Windows for Workgroups and FreeDOS

2015-05-28 Thread Antony Gordon
Hi, So for the pure fun of it, I decided to install Windows 3.11 on FreeDOS knowing full well how well it would work. (Cue laugh track) I don’t know how far anyone has gotten with this process but so far what I have found is that FreeDOS (unlike MS-DOS) in it’s default configuration ends up in

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 2.0

2015-05-28 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Although it is freeware, source code for NDN appears to be unavailable. Given this project's push towards 100% open software, I am inclined to exclude it from the FreeDOS 2.0 image. Any thoughts? -- ___

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS (ODIN) and 8086 compatibility

2015-05-28 Thread perditionc
I will try to look at this in next day or so; email me directly if not as it means I got sidetracked ... Jeremy On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On 24/05/2015 11:29, Mateusz Viste wrote: >> DIR: When using DIR/P, DIR seems to think that the screen is 1-row high, >> and ask