Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-22 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > I am considering adquiring a new processor, but what can be found in > the shops is mostly x86-64. > If what I read is correct, there is no V86-mode, so there isn't NTVDM > under WIndows, and I guess that DOSEMU will not run under Linux. There is V86 mode, but it cannot be used together wi

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Blair Campbell
> I do much FreeDOS programming on NTVDM, so I was trying to guess how > much the impact on me will be. On the other hand, my interest on > DOSBOX and such programs increases ;) Around here at least, some of the new computers come with 64-bit processors and 32-bit OSes by default. Probably becuas

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, 2008/12/21 Tom Ehlert : >>>Thanks Tom for your answer. But in what is that different from not >>>existing a NTVDM? > > in that this is a limitation of the processor, and not caused by lazy > microsoft programmers ;) > Sure! Didn't want to imply so ;) I do much FreeDOS programming on NTVDM, s

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Tom Ehlert
>> >> I am considering adquiring a new processor, but what can be found in >> >> the shops is mostly x86-64. >> >> If what I read is correct, there is no V86-mode, so there isn't NTVDM >> >> under WIndows, >> > mostly wrong. >> > >> > the only problem is, that there is no 16-bit (DOS real-mode) ope

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 12:20 PM 12/21/2008, Robert Riebisch wrote: >Ralf A. Quint wrote: > > > Ralf > >It's nice to see you still being around here! :-) > >Robert Riebisch Thanks, let's see if it lasts for a while this time, life hasn't been to nice to me specially this year, but that means it only can get better fr

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Robert Riebisch
Ralf A. Quint wrote: > Ralf It's nice to see you still being around here! :-) Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 11:27 AM 12/21/2008, Aitor Santamaría wrote: >Hello Tom, > >2008/12/21 Tom Ehlert : > >> I am considering adquiring a new processor, but what can be found in > >> the shops is mostly x86-64. > >> If what I read is correct, there is no V86-mode, so there isn't NTVDM > >> under WIndows, > > mostly

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello Tom, 2008/12/21 Tom Ehlert : >> I am considering adquiring a new processor, but what can be found in >> the shops is mostly x86-64. >> If what I read is correct, there is no V86-mode, so there isn't NTVDM >> under WIndows, > mostly wrong. > > the only problem is, that there is no 16-bit (DOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Tom Ehlert
> I am considering adquiring a new processor, but what can be found in > the shops is mostly x86-64. > If what I read is correct, there is no V86-mode, so there isn't NTVDM > under WIndows, mostly wrong. the only problem is, that there is no 16-bit (DOS real-mode) operation if you are running a 64

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Michael Reichenbach
Aitor Santamaría schrieb: > Hello, > > I am considering adquiring a new processor, but what can be found in > the shops is mostly x86-64. You are not forced to use long mode, you can still install and use 32 bit Windows or 32 bit Linux without problems. > If what I read is correct, there is no V

Re: [Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Florian Xaver
> If what I read is correct, there is no V86-mode, so there isn't NTVDM > under WIndows, and I guess that DOSEMU will not run under Linux. DOSEMU runs, but all is emulated => slower. Bye -- Florian Xaver Wien/Vienna http://www.drdos.org - http://www.flox.at.tf --

[Freedos-devel] Windows NTVDM alternatives for 64-bit

2008-12-21 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, I am considering adquiring a new processor, but what can be found in the shops is mostly x86-64. If what I read is correct, there is no V86-mode, so there isn't NTVDM under WIndows, and I guess that DOSEMU will not run under Linux. Are there other alternatives than VMWARE and such to be ab