Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-30 Thread Blair Campbell
Has Anybody looked up dmsdosfs? It is a linux filesystem driver that can access quite a few different compressed dos filesystems like drivespace and doublespace. Perhaps an implementation could be derived from its source code. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-29 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Imre, > Well, I think that a seperate partition with a compressed file > system and a block driver would be the best option. I agree about the block driver, but I believe a file would be more flexible than a partition. Once you compress a partition, you would otherwise have to shrink it to ma

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-29 Thread Eric Auer
> Stored in reverse order, with the short file name after the long > one, yeah that's realy got to make speed. Dear Imre, the MS algorithm is really a LITTLE bit more advanced than a linear read of the directory. Try to find and read the patents. Eric -

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-29 Thread Imre Leber
reedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > >Hi Antony, (please switch from HTML to plain text mail...) > >> I would think that the information contained in the MS-DOS 6 >> Programmers reference is free of any restric

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-29 Thread Imre Leber
> but more about efficient handling of long >file names. Your joking, right? Stored in reverse order, with the short file name after the long one, yeah that's realy got to make speed. Imre - Check out the new SourceFo

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-28 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Antony, (please switch from HTML to plain text mail...) > I would think that the information contained in the MS-DOS 6 > Programmers reference is free of any restrictions related to > that lawsuit. (I assume you mean the one which forced MS to go DOS 6.2 to 6.22 and replace a bad license comp

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-28 Thread Antony Gordon
, Int 25h, and Int 26h (which comprise most of how DOS applications access the disk). -T > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:27:50 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > > Hi Ant

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-28 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Antony, for now, I would not recommend to try to clone any MS compressed filesystem. Remember that they themselves have had licensing issues with their own compressed filesystem. One thing which makes doublespace and co complex is their ability to WRITE to the filesystem while it is mounted /

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-28 Thread Antony Gordon
implementation. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:13:48 + > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > Actually the sources seem to already contain zlib. > > So I assume we almost have a working

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-28 Thread Imre Leber
ag, maart 28, 2008 01:05 PM >Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > >Actualy like Eric, privately, pointed out we already have a driver to treat a >file as a volume, nl. SHSUFDRV. > >However, the problem is

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-28 Thread Imre Leber
: vrijdag, maart 28, 2008 10:11 AM >Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > >I've read all the posts, now lets look at what DriveSpace/DoubleSpace actually >did... > >You take a hard drive of x capacity, analyze th

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-28 Thread Antony Gordon
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:08:34 -0430 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > Would be OK something like a tar file, that includes time, date and > attribut

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-21 Thread Marco Achury
Would be OK something like a tar file, that includes time, date and attributes for each file. And may be compressed if needed. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury Tel: +58-(212)-6158777 Cel: +58-(414)-3142282 Fax: +58-(212)-2410828 Skype: marcoachury www.geocities.com/marcoachury Imre Leber escrib

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-21 Thread Imre Leber
p: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > >Hoi Imre, > >> You did however make the very valid point that implementing a >> compressed file system is not so easy as one might think. > >Luckily the task gets a lot easier if the filesystem will be >readonly (t

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-20 Thread Eric Auer
Hoi Imre, > You did however make the very valid point that implementing a > compressed file system is not so easy as one might think. Luckily the task gets a lot easier if the filesystem will be readonly (tool to create it, driver to read it). And such a filesystem is still pretty useful :-).

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-20 Thread Imre Leber
bericht - >Van: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Verzonden: donderdag, maart 20, 2008 01:19 PM >Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > >Hi Imre, > >> Does the fact that all this runs on l

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-20 Thread Imre Leber
2008 01:19 PM >Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > >Hi Imre, > >> Does the fact that all this runs on linux slip your mind >> (like in no way interesting for the stated purpose). > >Some of

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems (totaly OT)

2008-03-20 Thread Imre Leber
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Verzonden: donderdag, maart 20, 2008 12:43 PM >Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > >Does the fact that all this runs on linux slip your mind (like in no way >interesting for the stated purpo

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-20 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Imre, > Does the fact that all this runs on linux slip your mind > (like in no way interesting for the stated purpose). Some of the filesystems claim to be implemented in only 4 kilobytes of code. Which is a lot smaller than the FAT engine in the FreeDOS kernel, for example. If you made a va

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-20 Thread Imre Leber
ation). Imre >- Oorspronkelijk bericht - >Van: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Verzonden: donderdag, maart 20, 2008 03:33 AM >Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems > > >Hi Imre, > >> Which fre

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems

2008-03-19 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Imre, > Which free/open compressed embedded filesystems would that be? Browsing wikipedia a bit gives me quite a few READONLY free and open source compressed filesystems, several of which are useful for embedded systems. For writeability, you would typically have to alloc new space in your fi

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems (was: defrag methods)

2008-03-19 Thread Imre Leber
>- Oorspronkelijk bericht - >Van: Aitor Santamar?a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Verzonden: woensdag, maart 19, 2008 01:45 AM >Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems (was: defrag methods) > >One more thin

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems (was: defrag methods)

2008-03-19 Thread Imre Leber
>- Oorspronkelijk bericht - >Van: Eric Auer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Verzonden: dinsdag, maart 18, 2008 10:38 PM >Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems (was: defrag methods) > > >Hi! > >> Maybe

Re: [Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems (was: defrag methods)

2008-03-18 Thread Aitor SantamarĂ­a
One more thing: the big deal about DoubleSpace/DriveSpace is not the compression itself, which could of course increase your free space, but mostly comes from the variable-sector-per-cluster stuff: you get lots of extra free space by cutting the space occupied by the many, say, less than 1KB text f

[Freedos-devel] compressed FAT filesystems (was: defrag methods)

2008-03-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > Maybe with adding compression it could make a replacement for > doublespace? (running it through the network redirector obviously) Nope, doublespace compresses the actual data on your disk, not the space which is free anyway ;-). I think it would be nice to have a driver for one of those f