Re: [Freedos-devel] CD-ROMs was ANSI for DOS

2023-08-08 Thread Rugxulo via Freedos-devel
Hi, On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:05 PM Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Just an opinion, but it's bad software design to assume that the presence or > a peripheral implies > a certain class of machine. The presence of a CD-ROM should not imply a 386 > or better machine; > it's orthogon

Re: [Freedos-devel] CD-ROMs was ANSI for DOS

2023-08-06 Thread Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel
Many early CD-ROM drives used on PCs were SCSI, and all of those drivers work on the XT class (8088/8086/V20) CPUs. There were a lot of devices from Future Domain, Trantor, and Adaptec. The Adaptec cards generally required a 16 bit bus but the software runs fine on machines with 8 bit slots. (I'

Re: [Freedos-devel] CD-ROMs was ANSI for DOS

2023-08-06 Thread Bret Johnson via Freedos-devel
> The first one I can remember was the Mitsumi CRMC-LU005S single speed > drive, which was the one I had. It had its own card because it was > non-IDE despite the fact that the cable and plug looked exactly like > IDE. They did use a proprietary standard. They definitely worked on an > 80286, so I

Re: [Freedos-devel] CD-ROMs was ANSI for DOS

2023-08-06 Thread Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel wrote: Yeah, around 1993 was when the first ones arrived. I know I was hearing about CD-ROM drives connected to the Apple IIgs when I was still in grade school (so no later than mid-1990)... -uso.

Re: [Freedos-devel] CD-ROMs was ANSI for DOS

2023-08-06 Thread Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel
Yeah, around 1993 was when the first ones arrived. On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 01:12, Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2023, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > The first one I can remember was the Mitsumi CRMC-LU005S single speed > > drive, which was the one I had. It

Re: [Freedos-devel] CD-ROMs was ANSI for DOS

2023-08-06 Thread Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel wrote: The first one I can remember was the Mitsumi CRMC-LU005S single speed drive, which was the one I had. It had its own card because it was non-IDE despite the fact that the cable and plug looked exactly like IDE. They did use a proprietary

Re: [Freedos-devel] CD-ROMs was ANSI for DOS

2023-08-06 Thread Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel
The first one I can remember was the Mitsumi CRMC-LU005S single speed drive, which was the one I had. It had its own card because it was non-IDE despite the fact that the cable and plug looked exactly like IDE. They did use a proprietary standard. They definitely worked on an 80286, so I think we c

Re: [Freedos-devel] CD-ROMs was ANSI for DOS

2023-08-06 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Aug 3, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > On 8/3/2023 11:54 AM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: >> >>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Bret Johnson via Freedos-devel >>> wrote: >>> >>>  Yeah, USB and CD/DVD makes only sense for a 386+ ... >>> USB, ye