Arkady,
> Jim, please, retest with latest bootfix version (1.3) - now it analyzes
> not only default, but also current BPB.
>
Zip file sent to you.
> beta9rc4 is outdated
> and definitely should be updated.
>
Considering comments by Luchezar G, there's something wrong on the server I
got that IS
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15-Мар-2004 12:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to
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>> should be reported for those, who prepare ISO images: beta9rc4 is
>> outdated and definitely should be updated.
LG> There is something wrong here. The latest official kernel (build 2033)
LG> went out on 31
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:45:43 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
So, there was a bug in kernel, which was used previously. This
should be reported for those, who prepare ISO images: beta9rc4 is
outdated and definitely should be updated.
There is something wrong here. The latest official kernel
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14-Мар-2004 18:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to "Arkady
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JL> I got kernel 2033_32 and used INSTALL.BAT to create a FreeDOS bootable
JL> Booted fine!
Perfect.
JL> Note; this particular ZIP disk WAS FAT32 before transferring system
JL> files. Note
All,
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> I think we should be able to boot from ZIP FAT32
>
We can! We can!!!
See my latest reply to Arkady.
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Arkady,
> About making FAT32 Zip diskette bootable:
>
> 1. get latest SYS version (comes with kernel, available at freedos.sf.net).
> 2. apply SYS to diskette (under latest kernel).
> 3. try to boot.
>
I got kernel 2033_32 and used INSTALL.BAT to create a FreeDOS bootable
floppy. Altered CONFIG.
Tested fat32 booting on me hard drive works fine.
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14-Мар-2004 13:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
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>> 1. get latest SYS version (comes with kernel, available at freedos.sf.net)
JL> kernel 2033?
Yes. Also, there was some changes in kernel. AFAIK, Luchezar presents
precompiled kernels with all up to date patche
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:42:13 -, James Stockton wrote:
>I'm trying out the nightly kernel, not sure if thats what they
mean.
>But its worth a look i think.
As soon as I can get to it, will be using
2.0.33
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freedos/ke2033_32.zip?download
Trying to get the Net-
I'm trying out the nightly kernel, not sure if thats what they mean. But its
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Arkady,
> But earlier you say, that you test BOOTFIX under FreeDOS and access Zip
> as C:?
>
Probably when I'd used SR, booted off it, then switched diskettes.
I'm beginning to get a bit overwhelmed with all of this. Maybe I'll
tinker around some more tonight, before giving up.
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Arkady,
> 1. get latest SYS version (comes with kernel, available at freedos.sf.net)
>
Hmm, when I go to http://freedos.sourceforge.net/ I'm presented with a
bunch of choices. Do you mean for me to get;
kernel 2032?
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=312180
kernel 2033?
http://prd
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14-Мар-2004 08:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
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>> FreeDOS formatting tool is FORMAT currently maintained by Eric Auer. Why
>> don't you try to use FORMAT on your ZIP first?
JL> I would if I could, but FreeDOS doesn't 'see' the ZIP drive, it only
Arkady,
> Moreover, if MS-FORMAT allows to format 100 Mb as FAT32 (and
> XP works with it flawlessly?), then this should be accepted by us also.
>
But it doesn't work 'flawlessly'. I can read/write/copy/move/delete to -
from a ZIP-100 FAT32 disk, but it is NOT bootable.
> Do you mean, that
>
> -
Luchezar,
> Does the bootstrap from FreeDOS fail? If
> so, it's because of the bad boot sector.
>
Exactly!
> If
> so, it's because of the bad boot sector. Does FORMAT under FreeDOS fail?
> No!
>
Undetermined, not "No!" But I'll check.
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Luchezar,
> You need to make a CONFIG.SYS (device=iomega_driver_name)
>
Will do.
> (Do you mean that IOMEGA still really support DOS??? ;-)
>
Nothing NEW, but older DOS/Win 3.1 drivers for 'guest' are available in
their archives.
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14-Мар-2004 20:47 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to
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AVB> Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel.
Ops, sorry, too husty conlusion: BOOTFIX analyzes _default_ BPB, which
is _suggestion_ by OS for given media. Boot record should be compared with
"current BPB", which is used by OS
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14-Мар-2004 05:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
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JL> " Should I format my Jaz or Zip disk with FAT32?
JL> Answer
JL> Iomegaо does not support nor recommend the use of FAT32 formatting
JL> with Zipо or Jazо disks.
Jaz diskettes are 1 and 2
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:47:44 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
Which OS you was use for tests?
FreeDOS
Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. I think, Bart may/should clarify this,
maybe this is expected behavior.
What we're talking about here? Does the bootstrap from FreeDOS fail? If
so, it's bec
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14-Мар-2004 20:47 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to
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AVB> Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. I think, Bart may/should clarify
AVB> this, may this is expected behavior.
---^^^ may be
AVB> Do you mean, that
AVB> - XP formats to FAT16 and makes bootable: diskette boot
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14-Мар-2004 07:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
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Not needed to CC for me, I subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Which OS you was use for tests?
JL> FreeDOS
Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. I think, Bart may/should clarify this,
may th
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:15:30 CST, Jim Lilly wrote:
Luchezar,
No need to send me a carbon copy, I'm subscribed here.
Have you tried such a driver in MS-DOS or FreeDOS?
I'll setup a DOS bootdisk as such.
How is such done with a FreeDOS boot floppy?
ODIN is already bootable (see FreeDOS site for its
Luchezar,
> Have you tried such a driver in MS-DOS or FreeDOS?
>
I'll setup a DOS bootdisk as such.
How is such done with a FreeDOS boot floppy?
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On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:32:47 CST, Jim Lilly wrote:
FreeDOS formatting tool is FORMAT currently maintained by Eric Auer.
Why don't you try to use FORMAT on your ZIP first?
I would if I could, but FreeDOS doesn't 'see' the ZIP drive, it only
sees A: & the CDROM. Therefore FreeDOS won't allow me to
Luchezar,
> FreeDOS formatting tool is FORMAT currently maintained by Eric Auer. Why
> don't you try to use FORMAT on your ZIP first?
>
I would if I could, but FreeDOS doesn't 'see' the ZIP drive, it only sees A:
& the CDROM. Therefore FreeDOS won't allow me to do anything to my ZIP drive.
> By
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 07:55:10 CST, Jim Lilly wrote:
[...] SpinRite which uses FreeDOS incorrectly
'claims' to have successfully formatted such FAT32 ZIP-100 disks.yet
fail to boot. THAT is the focal point of troubles with FreeDOS I'm
having.
SpinRite uses FreeDOS for it's formatting functions
Arkady,
> - v2.9 is outdated (old kernel).
>
Might be, but it's what's on.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/beta
9rc4/fdbootcd.zip
Also note; THAT CD of FreeDOS did NOT 'see' anything but the CDROM & Floppy
drivesno ZIP, no HD.
> - You can't use SYS
Arkady,
> Which OS you was use for tests?
>
FreeDOS
> Which software you use to prepare
> (format) these ZIP diskettes?
>
WinXP Pro initially, SpinRite for the one ZIP disk.
> Also, disk geometry in boot record differs from one, reported by OS.
> This is, probably, not very important (in given c
you can't use SYS (and any other programs, which directly access disks)
under NT/2k/XP.
You may access a floppy drive though. I have successfully run "SYS A:"
from Windows 2003.
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14-Мар-2004 14:33 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to
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JL>> Attached is [misc.zip]
JL>> File notes from Jim Lilly;
JL>> RSLT_SR6 - ZIP100, FAT, BOOTFIX results
__O\_/_\_/O__
Checking drive C:
Reading default BPB...
[...]
Volume
Arkady,
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K379136B7
" Should I format my Jaz or Zip disk with FAT32?
Answer
Iomega® does not support nor recommend the use of FAT32 formatting
with Zip® or Jaz® disks.
Warning: Data integrity maybe an issue using FAT32 formatting. Iomega
recommends formatting Z
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12-Мар-2004 20:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
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>> This is FAT16, so FAT size here should be 190 sectors.
JL> Hmmm, THAT particular disk should have been FAT32or I got confused.
This disk (with such clusters count) can't be FAT32.
>>
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13-Мар-2004 15:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to ark:
JL> Attached is [misc.zip]
JL> File notes from Jim Lilly;
JL> RSLT_SR6 - ZIP100, FAT, BOOTFIX results
Looks valid and workable.
JL> RSLT_16 - ZIP100, FAT, BOOTFIX results
Looks like there is problems: OS says that FAT
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12-Мар-2004 21:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
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JL> I tried the only updating the boot sector using FreeDOS' SYS and got;
JL> D:\Download\FreeDOS>sys X: BOOTONLY
JL> FreeDOS System Installer v2.9, Sep 24 2003
JL> Processing boot sector...
JL> R
Luchezar,
> In any case, ZIP disks must be formatted with FAT16 and nothing else.
>
Yep, just had the link to Iomega stating that sent to me.
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On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 19:16:00 CST, Jim Lilly wrote:
If I remember correctly, FAT32 volumes must be at least 128 MB in size.
Where might I read up on that info?
Microsoft have stated that the minimum is even 256 MB (in
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/maintaining/articles/901Jan/Fat3
Luchezar,
> If I remember correctly, FAT32 volumes must be at least 128 MB in size.
>
Where might I read up on that info?
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13-Мар-2004 11:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to
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>> I've found FreeDOS hangs in booting off a ZIP 100 IDE disk formatted
>> FAT32, but boots fine off another ZIP disk formatted as FAT.
LG> If I remember correctly, FAT32 volumes must be at least 128 MB in siz
Luchezar,
> FAT32 volumes must be at least 128 MB in size.
>
HWinXP doesn't seem to know that.
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:24:58 CST, Jim Lilly wrote:
I've found FreeDOS hangs in booting off a ZIP 100 IDE disk formatted
FAT32, but boots fine off another ZIP disk formatted as FAT.
If I remember correctly, FAT32 volumes must be at least 128 MB in size.
Lucho
-
Steve,
> You really should be doing all of this stuff from a successful boot of some
> stable DOS system ... and definitely outside of Windows XP.
>
That's for tomorrow morning, I'm getting ready to hit the sack. But I did want
to try several approaches from within WinXP first, as your new tool
Hi Jim,
> Yes, something is wrong.
I tried the only updating the boot sector using FreeDOS' SYS and got;
D:\Download\FreeDOS>sys X: BOOTONLY
FreeDOS System Installer v2.9, Sep 24 2003
Processing boot sector...
Reading old bootsector from drive X:
Divide overflow
WinXP throws up an error message
Arkady,
In prior message, ZIP disk was formatted FAT. Tried again with one as
FAT32 & get same message.
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Arkady,
> Yes, something is wrong.
>
I tried the only updating the boot sector using FreeDOS' SYS and got;
D:\Download\FreeDOS>sys X: BOOTONLY
FreeDOS System Installer v2.9, Sep 24 2003
Processing boot sector...
Reading old bootsector from drive X:
Divide overflow
WinXP throws up an error mess
Arkady,
> This is FAT16, so FAT size here should
> be 190 sectors.
>
Hmmm, THAT particular disk should have been FAT32or I got confused.
> Under which OS you run BOOTFIX?
>
WinXP Pro, and it's HD is NTFSfwiw.
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Eric,
> "inline" for easier discussion
>
Also, per your request I try copybs;
> could you try with COPYBS from the SYSLINUX package?
>
Whether the ZIP disk is FAT -or- FAT32 formatted, I get;
D:\Download>copybs X: logfile.txt
ERROR: Boot sector read failed
I tried two different ZIP 100 disks, o
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12-Мар-2004 16:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
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>> run for A: (you ZIP disk mapped as A:?) with option /d:
>> "BOOTFIX /d a:>result". Then send result for me for analyzing.
JL> Actually mine is set as X:
JL> --ATTACHMENT-- Binary file
>Checking drive x:
>Reading d
Arkady,
> run for A:
> (you ZIP disk mapped as A:?) with option /d: "BOOTFIX /d a:>result". Then
> send result for me for analyzing.
>
Actually mine is set as X:
Attached is [result] file
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12-Мар-2004 15:24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to
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JL> What needs to be tested in the areas of FAT32 SYS booting code?
JL> I've found FreeDOS hangs in booting off a ZIP 100 IDE disk formatted
JL> FAT32, but boots fine off another ZIP disk formatted as FAT.
Get f
All,
What needs to be tested in the areas of FAT32 SYS booting code?
I've found FreeDOS hangs in booting off a ZIP 100 IDE disk formatted
FAT32, but boots fine off another ZIP disk formatted as FAT.
I'm NOT a programmer, but am looking to help in testing.
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