Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-22 Thread escape
I was about to post bugreport at VirtualBox bugtracker, but decided to double-check the issue first. On my system floppy images change are correctly recognized. VirtualBox 4.1.4-3.2.3 OSE OpenSUSE 12.1. On 16.05.12 19:33, Wolfgang Schechinger wrote: > Dear experts, > > I have some floppy images

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 635, Issue 1

2012-05-22 Thread Kenny Emond
--- Your problem is that that you're using a USB printer, rather than a parallel port printer. MS never added USB support to DOS, even though they actually continued to make DOS for several years after USB came out (mid-1990's). No version of DOS today has "native" support for USB (printers, mice

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox U IDE2 init problem

2012-05-22 Thread Jack
>> The FAT file system is defined by DOS, and I want UIDE/UIDE2 to >> have NO run-time "dependencies" on the DOS system. > > Nice in theory, but unfortunately doesn't work in practice. Sure seems to, since before this thread, UIDE/UIDE2 have "trapped" only BIOS Int 13h I-O requests, and no one has

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox U IDE2 init problem

2012-05-22 Thread Bret Johnson
Jack: > The FAT file system is defined by DOS, and I want UIDE/UIDE2 to > have NO run-time "dependencies" on the DOS system. Nice in theory, but unfortunately doesn't work in practice. DOS's management of the change line is under the sole auspices of the block device driver, not hardware/BIOS (

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox UIDE2 init problem

2012-05-22 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 22-5-2012 16:05, Jack schreef: > PCI V2.0C and later versions have all worked just FINE, until > the rather poor emulator know as "VirtualBox" appeared, using > its MISERABLE "emulation" logic for the Intel PIIX3 chipset!! > If they DO NOT have such "long delay" trouble with their ICH9 > "emula

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox UIDE2 init problem

2012-05-22 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 22-5-2012 6:21, Rugxulo schreef: > Is anybody working on FD 1.2? I haven't heard anything (and don't > think we need it just yet anyways). Switching things around is, I > guess, that person's ultimate decision (Bernd??). I'm indeed working on a FreeDOS 1.2 as 1.0 and 1.1 didn't meet up to my

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox UIDE2 init problem

2012-05-22 Thread Jack
Eric, >> Do try to understand, as my damn ex-wife never did [part of >> why she BECAME my ex- 32 years ago!!], that I have a REASON >> for everything I say and do, same as for everything in UIDE > > Just making suggestions for universally faster and > more fool-proof UIDE, as I dislike the idea t

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox UIDE2 init problem

2012-05-22 Thread Eric Auer
Jack, >> the numbering of FAT filesystem exists, among other reasons, >> to help DOS detect floppy changes even if there is no change I did not suggest that UIDE would use this, just said that DOS uses the volume serial to work around "no change line". >> As you know, int 13.15 can even report

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox UIDE2 init problem

2012-05-22 Thread Jack
Eric, >> How does DOS ever detect that any hardware is "unreliable"?? > > I do not know, but earlier in this thread, somebody said that > the numbering of FAT filesystem exists, among other reasons, > to help DOS detect floppy changes even if there is no change > line available. The FAT file sys

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox UIDE2 init problem

2012-05-22 Thread Eric Auer
Jack, kernel people (now CCed), >> When DOS detects an unreliable floppy change line hardware, >> it should use the floppy label / serial / similar to detect >> changes in software ... > > How does DOS ever detect that any hardware is "unreliable"?? I do not know, but earlier in this thread, so