Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread Don Flowers
Thanks Gents! You ave shed additional light on a rather complicated subject. On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:24 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Don, at the risk of making this thread even longer... > > Yes, ebook readers tend to use Linux. Nicer brands even > publish development kits ;-) But Linux is a whol

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Don, at the risk of making this thread even longer... Yes, ebook readers tend to use Linux. Nicer brands even publish development kits ;-) But Linux is a whole OS. So as long as Amazon publishes any changes to the kernel with sources, they can run any of their closed source, DRM protected doc

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-10-01 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:29 PM Ben Sauvin wrote: > > Legacy applications can also be a lot of fun. For suitable values of the term. :-p > I used to work for a "high tech" company that ran a kind of ERP on DOS > machines. It was a mass of compiled COBOL, source code not available and the > com

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:41 PM Don Flowers wrote: > > So this statement caught my attention:" Other things that have a Linux kernel > uder the hood are the Amazon Kindle and B&N Nook eBook reader devices (and > source > for their Linux kernel and firmware is available." > Amazon may have releas

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread Don Flowers
So this statement caught my attention:" Other things that have a Linux kernel uder the hood are the Amazon Kindle and B&N Nook eBook reader devices (and source for their Linux kernel and firmware is available." Amazon may have released some part of the code but not all, else DRM would not be employ

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:32 PM Cuvtixo D wrote: > > I'm glad this is being cleared up a bit here. Yes, I should have made the > civil/criminal distinction. Yes, it's too expensive to be practical for > commercial companies. But still, at least in my fantasies, Stallman would > have done a big f

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread Ralf Quint
On 10/1/2018 10:14 AM, Cuvtixo D wrote: Brand new to this mailing list, but I wanted to respond to a conversation about Open source licences, and apologies to the authors, I lost track of who said what in the following: >>> (Speaking personally, I'd love to see *FreeDOS* re-licensed under >>> s

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-10-01 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 7:33 PM Jim Hall wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 6:00 PM, dmccunney wrote: > > Agreed on being as free as possible, and the question is how free > > FreeDOS *can* be. > > > > The bigger question is "Why use FreeDOS at *all*?" No amount of > > freedom will compensate for

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread Cuvtixo D
I'm glad this is being cleared up a bit here. Yes, I should have made the civil/criminal distinction. Yes, it's too expensive to be practical for commercial companies. But still, at least in my fantasies, Stallman would have done a big fundraiser to bring such a case to court, since he seems to be

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:16 PM Cuvtixo D wrote: > > Brand new to this mailing list, but I wanted to respond to a conversation > about Open source licences, and apologies to the authors, I lost track of who > said what in the following: > >>> (Speaking personally, I'd love to see *FreeDOS* re-lic

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-10-01 Thread Ben Sauvin
Legacy applications can also be a lot of fun. I used to work for a "high tech" company that ran a kind of ERP on DOS machines. It was a mass of compiled COBOL, source code not available and the company that produced it already gone out of business. Moving through successive versions of Windows mea

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread Cuvtixo D
Brand new to this mailing list, but I wanted to respond to a conversation about Open source licences, and apologies to the authors, I lost track of who said what in the following: >>> (Speaking personally, I'd love to see *FreeDOS* re-licensed under >>> something other than the GPL.) >> I don't ho

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:29 AM Thomas Mueller wrote: > Excerptfrom dmccunney: > > > > MS isn't the only vendor of a DOS-compatible OS. DR-DOS and ROM-DOS > > > are still sold online. (Do OS/2 variants also count? Maybe.) > > > Which OS/2 variants? The one I'm aware of is eComStation, > > https://

Re: [Freedos-user] Sharing announcements about FreeDOS programs

2018-10-01 Thread stecdose
On facebook you will reach a lot of people, that do not read or even heard about the mailing list(s). Also I think it encourages people to get involved in discussions, reviews, ... if they see these on their phones every day/when something gets posted. It is definitely not a place for serious

Re: [Freedos-user] Sharing announcements about FreeDOS programs

2018-10-01 Thread Jim Hall
Yes. And to be clear, I'm sharing via Twitter and Facebook announcements about *FreeDOS programs that I see mentioned on freedos-devel and freedos-user.* So I'm just generally sharing when I tweet something vs when it gets posted as news on the website. I sometimes get asked "why didn't you pos

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-01 Thread Thomas Mueller
Excerptfrom dmccunney: > > MS isn't the only vendor of a DOS-compatible OS. DR-DOS and ROM-DOS > > are still sold online. (Do OS/2 variants also count? Maybe.) > Which OS/2 variants? The one I'm aware of is eComStation, > https://www.ecomstation.com/. The outfit that makes it got the rights >