Re: [Freedos-user] FSF?!

2021-04-01 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 2:06 PM Joao Silva wrote: > > I do dare to ask a dumb question, after reading several post about FSF. > > Can anyone explain what is FSF, i'm just a simple tech guy! Free Software Foundation, aka the ones who fund the GNU organization (GPL, GCC, BinUtils [as, ld],

[Freedos-user] FSF?!

2021-04-01 Thread Joao Silva
Hello to all! I do dare to ask a dumb question, after reading several post about FSF. Can anyone explain what is FSF, i'm just a simple tech guy! Thank you. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-04-01 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 2:41 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > Richard Stallman has not been convicted by a court. He is not in > > prison. Let's not burn his house down over pathetic words. > > That is not the point. To treat his behavior as a crime that mandatorily deserves punishment implies that

Re: [Freedos-user] Richard Stallman concerns...

2021-04-01 Thread Dave Stevens
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 11:40:25 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: > But... I digress, sir. There must be better places to discuss RMS, isn't this a FREEDOS list? d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freedos-user] Richard Stallman concerns...

2021-04-01 Thread Michael Powell
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 2:54 AM Michael Christopher Robinson < michae...@charter.net> wrote: > First off, I think too much has been said and a lot of it is troubling. > Partially and undeniably because Richard Stallman is a hard person for many > folks to relate to. I've never met him, but I've

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-04-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Thanks for the explanation, Jim: Here's the thing: I've had years of direct experience with Stallman. I've even met him several times in person. And in that time, I've watched him say and do very mean and hurtful things. Both to me, and to others. What can we learn from this negative

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-04-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Thanks, Jim: And it's because FreeDOS predates the term "open source" and the Open Source Initiative that so much of our early history was so strongly aligned with the Free Software Foundation (founded 1985). That's actually why it's "FreeDOS" and not "OpenDOS" .. because for 4 or 5 years after

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-04-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Hi Liam: The key issue that got him kicked out of the FSF two years ago (as well as forced out of MIT!) was to suggest that those underage victims of Eppstein "Epstein" not Eppstein. that his chum Minsky had been playing with did so "willingly" That is not correct. It is not fair to

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-04-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Rugxulo, > Richard Stallman has not been convicted by a court. He is not in > prison. Let's not burn his house down over pathetic words. That is not the point. > He's not perfect. He doesn't have to be. To be in a leading position in an organisation which tries to be a good example in the

[Freedos-user] Richard Stallman concerns...

2021-04-01 Thread Michael Christopher Robinson
First off, I think too much has been said and a lot of it is troubling. Partially and undeniably because Richard Stallman is a hard person for many folks to relate to. I've never met him, but I've known for a long time that he has a really bad reputation as an anti social individual. I've known

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-04-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Hi, TK Chia: In practical terms, I am especially worried that I might have to pore over the Codes of Conduct of conferences to look for hidden gotchas. Play the ball, not the man. Or consider whether what you utter gives more light than heat. When things get to "Oo, you, you you, you

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-04-01 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user
Exactly! :D Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 7:13 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > Thanks, Rugxulo: > > > Just > > because someone doesn't agree with him, even if he speaks > > egregious words, doesn't mean he should be destroyed. >

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-04-01 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user
+1 Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 7:08 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:04 AM dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Meanwhile, I'm beyond caring about Stallman or the state of the FSF. > > Both

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-04-01 Thread TK Chia
Hello Rugxulo, but that doesn't mean he should be heavily punished. Just because someone doesn't agree with him, even if he speaks egregious words, doesn't mean he should be destroyed. I reject that kind of irrational anger (especially You cannot have it both ways. Either opinions are

[Freedos-user] New FreeDOSers Monthly Reminder

2021-04-01 Thread John Price
-- We have only a few rules for posting to the FreeDOS mailing lists: 1. NO HATE SPEECH OR BULLYING Make sure everyone feels safe. Bullying of any kind isn't allowed, and degrading comments about things like race,