Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-04 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
well..this was an adventure I hope not to encounter again. First, the t command, which I was told would test integrity failed all together. so did, unlike with pk branded zip items, running p7zip on an archive in a different directory, even with the DPMI file right beside the thing. What finall

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-03 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-user
On 11/1/2023 12:32 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: I am sorry if this question is very very silly. My goal is to extract, not to create a 7zip file. The file referenced by Eric, seems to have archiving tools, but not extracting ones. Unless I am missing something profoundly obvious? Well, there is

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-01 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
Sorry, I have a retraction. links20f works fine, not giving me the dpmi error. p7zip does however. going to try a small trick, especially as I will only need this once. everything crossed. On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Thanks again Eric! I was likewise confused by

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-01 Thread Michał Dec via Freedos-user
You should be alright if you grab a copy of CWSDPMI and add it either to: - one of the directories in your %PATH% - or you put it in your current working directory - or you put it alongside P7ZIP.EXE CWSDPMI is also packaged by FreeDOS: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-01 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
Thanks again Eric! I was likewise confused by some of what is here. your wisdom about what to run has presented another challenge. now, this is the first time in a while a machine has been built for me, without my being present for the dos installation itself. when I run the p7zip command I get

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-01 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi! I did download Eric's file, as I do not use freedos. While you get extra package management features by opening our zipped app packages with a package manager, unzipping them with any UNZIP style tool will usually be sufficient. So you should be fine. The information indicates that it m

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-01 Thread Michał Dec via Freedos-user
If you download p7zip from http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/archiver/p7zip.zip, you can use the file ARCHIVER\P7ZIP\P7ZIP.EXE Optimally, you should extract the entire directory ARCHIVER\P7ZIP somewhere and write a P7ZIP.BAT file in your %PATH% that

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-01 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
I did download Eric's file, as I do not use freedos. The information indicates that it might be a port of a windows package. My search suggested that I should fine an executable called 7za, or even just 7z, but it is not there. the p7z file does not work at all. On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Micha?~B De

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-01 Thread Michał Dec via Freedos-user
Hello Karen, As I've stated in my previous email: * unzip is for decompressing zip files * zip is for creating zip files * p7zip is for BOTH creating and extracting 7z files (and many more actually) With p7zip, this is not an Alcohol 68% and Alcohol 52% situation, like it is with zip and

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-11-01 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
I am sorry if this question is very very silly. My goal is to extract, not to create a 7zip file. The file referenced by Eric, seems to have archiving tools, but not extracting ones. Unless I am missing something profoundly obvious? Thanks profoundly, On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Ralf Quint via Free

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
Thanks Eric, you are a prince. Karen On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi! According to https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/report.html you can download http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstab

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
Hi Ralf, Thanks for the correct extension. Will download the file again saving it properly. I do not personally run freedos yet for many reasons, so my thanks to others for doors to the software as well. Kare On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, K

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-user
Hi! According to https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/report.html you can download http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/archiver/p7zip.zip for 7zip. Regards, Eric _

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Michał Dec via Freedos-user
That and there's also, well, guessing which ~# file is the correct one. Also if you don't have the install CD, you can try your luck with connecting your FreeDOS instance to the Internet. fdimples has no problem downloading stuff that's online if you don't have a CD at hand. But, luck is the k

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-user
On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: I do not have a freedos install cd. I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am seeking it somewhere. are such files  given names like file.7zip? the latter does not keep the three character extension r

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
I do not have a freedos install cd. I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am seeking it somewhere. are such files given names like file.7zip? the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is why I am likewise asking. Karen On Tue, 31 O

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Michał Dec via Freedos-user
Regular zip files can be decompressed with unzip. For compression, use zip. 7z files can be decompressed with 7zip. They're all on the full FreeDOS install CD. Best regards, Michał Dec W dniu 31.10.2023 o 21:20, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze: Hi All, and a reminder how to set them ap

[Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?

2023-10-31 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
Hi All, and a reminder how to set them apart from say .zip files? have such an archive, needed to get a machine built, and one program I am restoring is available as a 7zip file. Is there a DOS equal to the pk zip package? And should such files be named differently than just .zip? Thanks so mu

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 08/30/2013 06:42 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > >> IIRC, the default mode of 7za is -mx5 and .7z format using LZMA [or >> LZMA2 in newer alphas] method, which means (among other things) 16 MB >> dictionary, aka 2^24, aka LZMA:24 (but you can

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-29 Thread Mateusz Viste
Hi, Just my $0.02. Mostly I totally agree with Rugxulo, who evidently knows much more about stuff than he modestly pretends ;) This have not much to do with the initial OP's question, but nevertheless, archiving is an interesting topic :) - for me especially, since I had to do much work with z

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Let me table this discussion where my question is concerned. > there is another copy of this program zipped using regular pk zip for dos > and as a strict dos port. p7z458c.zip is what I see at the link you gave. Honestly, it may wo

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, BTW, this is just random ramblings from me, I don't claim to be any sort of expert (esp. compression programming), more like a "power user" (if even that). On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > [Tom] >>> the very idea of 7zip is to tar first (internally), then compress. > >

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-29 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Bojan, [Tom] >> the very idea of 7zip is to tar first (internally), then compress. [Bojan] > Very idea of 7zip is a specific compression algorithm, not a way > the compressing utilites work. :) Actually you are BOTH right. As Rugxulo already mentioned, there is a difference between archives

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-29 Thread Bojan Popovic
Hey Tom, > the very idea of 7zip is to tar first (internally), then compress. > Very idea of 7zip is a specific compression algorithm, not a way the compressing utilites work. :) > this is a DOS mailing list. Yep, and that was an advice that might be useful in both DOS and Linux (you mentione

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-29 Thread Karen Lewellen
Let me table this discussion where my question is concerned. there is another copy of this program zipped using regular pk zip for dos and as a strict dos port. It is on the same site where I referenced a long time ago the dos ports of mplayer and other dos related desires. You will find a .Z

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Ehlert
>> The problem with tar. files is you must first uncompress the >> tar file, then extract what you want (and possibly then remove the >> uncompressed tar file.) > Not really. If you use tar for decompression (and not 7za) it will > automatically "pipe" the output of tar to appropriate decompressi

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-29 Thread Bojan Popovic
Hi. On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:34:14 -0400 dmccunney wrote: > The problem with tar. files is you must first uncompress the > tar file, then extract what you want (and possibly then remove the > uncompressed tar file.) Not really. If you use tar for decompression (and not 7za) it will automatically

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-29 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Rugxulo wrote: >> I prefer to just make a 7z archive, instead of a bz2'd tar file. The >> latter requires you to uncompress the tar file then extract it. What >> if you just want one file in the archive? And 7z archives made with >> max compression are comparabl

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:09 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Karen Lewellen > wrote: > >> Is this different from the pzip utility I found referenced when I googled >> 7zip in dos? > > I don't believe so. DJ Delorie's DJGPP build of p7zip is the only one > I'm aware

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-28 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Is this different from the pzip utility I found referenced when I googled > 7zip in dos? I don't believe so. DJ Delorie's DJGPP build of p7zip is the only one I'm aware of for DOS > I am not using freedos, but ms dos 7.1 will it make a d

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
Is this different from the pzip utility I found referenced when I googled 7zip in dos? I am not using freedos, but ms dos 7.1 will it make a difference? I had to laugh as the pzip package requires bz2 for the unzipping, which is something pzip does. Thanks, Karen On Wed, 28 Aug 2013, dmccunney

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-28 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi folks, > Can anyone direct me to a pure dos package of 7zip? I need to unzip a > file compressed with it. The's a DJGPP build as part of FreeDOS, here: http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=7-zip > Thanks, > Karen __ Dennis https:/

[Freedos-user] 7zip in pure dos?

2013-08-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi folks, Can anyone direct me to a pure dos package of 7zip? I need to unzip a file compressed with it. Thanks, Karen -- Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! Discover the easy way to ma

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-24 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: > > However, there may be other problems when running under Connect. > > - Sometimes (yes, just sometimes), when a full path is given > after the "@" sign, such as C:\TEMP\SELECTED.LST, 7zip > complains that it "Cannot

[Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-24 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi Rugxulo, > beware to always use lowercase names, ugh. Mistery solved ... the trouble apparently was that the Connect file manager writes the filename list "SELECTED.LST", as well as the command line, in uppercase. So I wrote a batch file to run 7zip. Now Connect calls that batch file instead

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: > >> Hence I suggest sticking with 7ZA920.ZIP or some version of >> p7zip 9.20.1 (despite bugs), at least under DOS. > > I downloaded this version: > > /pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/file/7zip/9.20.1/testing/p7z9

[Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-23 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi Rugxulo, > Hence I suggest sticking with 7ZA920.ZIP or some version of > p7zip 9.20.1 (despite bugs), at least under DOS. I downloaded this version: /pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/file/7zip/9.20.1/testing/p7z9201-latest.zip 2012-Sep-03 13:00:32 ... and here's a couple of observations

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-22 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: >>> I'd like to use 7zip to compress successive versions of the book >>> I'm writing. For files containing long, identical sections as in >>> this case, 7zip produces archives *10 times* smaller than InfoZip. > >> What are

[Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-22 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi Dennis, >> I'd like to use 7zip to compress successive versions of the book >> I'm writing. For files containing long, identical sections as in >> this case, 7zip produces archives *10 times* smaller than InfoZip. > What are you writing the book with? I'm writing it in LaTeX, so it is mostly

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-22 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM, dmccunney wrote: >> >>> I know there have been a few recent alphas of 7-Zip for Windows, but I >>> don't think Igor ever finalized them yet. Lemme check ... latest seems >>> to be 9.30 alpha from late last

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM, dmccunney wrote: > >> I know there have been a few recent alphas of 7-Zip for Windows, but I >> don't think Igor ever finalized them yet. Lemme check ... latest seems >> to be 9.30 alpha from late last October. Latest p7zip was still 9.20.1 >> last I checked,

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-22 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros > wrote: >> >> I'd like to use 7zip to compress successive versions of the book >> I'm writing. For files containing long, identical sections as in >> this case, 7zip produces archi

Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: > > I'd like to use 7zip to compress successive versions of the book > I'm writing. For files containing long, identical sections as in > this case, 7zip produces archives *10 times* smaller than InfoZip. I assume you m

[Freedos-user] 7zip

2013-03-22 Thread Marcos Favero Florence de Barros
Hi, I'd like to use 7zip to compress successive versions of the book I'm writing. For files containing long, identical sections as in this case, 7zip produces archives *10 times* smaller than InfoZip. However, the DOS 7zip I'm using seems to have these limitations: - compresses sub-folders, but