Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-16 Thread Tom Ehlert
Dear Louis, a few points a) the FreeDOS project isn't very interested in a BC5 compiled kernel because BC5 isn't freely available/open source; I also doubt the output of BC5 will be significant better then the OW output. feel free to experiment, but don't expect us to be excited ;) So,

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-15 Thread Louis Santillan
So, something in the make files/build files is skipping building a concrete GLOBAL for ReturnAnyDosVersionExpected for BC5. There's a MAIN define checked but the build process doesn't seem to get defined anywhere. :/ Need to do more digging. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Louis Santillan

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-14 Thread Louis Santillan
BC5 in my hands in 5 days for $35 shipped from Canada. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: So I bought a shrink wrapped copy of BC5 off ebay today. Should be in my hands in 7-10 days. :D On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Louis Santillan

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-09 Thread Louis Santillan
So I bought a shrink wrapped copy of BC5 off ebay today. Should be in my hands in 7-10 days. :D On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote: Badly written ifdef in memdisk.asm. Fixed

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-07 Thread Louis Santillan
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: [SNIP] I'm excited by GCC 4.8.x coming to DJGPP. I just have questions I need to answer for myself about it's 2.04 beta incompatibilities with 2.03 (like, Whats the right way to install 2.04?, What needs to be recompiled for

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-07 Thread Louis Santillan
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote: Badly written ifdef in memdisk.asm. Fixed such that 486+ compiles. Read ( ftp://openwatcom.mirrors.pair.com/manuals/current/cguide.pdf) and sections 2.3.x 3.5. Enlightening and disappointing. There does not seem

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think wcc.exe was ever meant to output 32-bit code. Granted, as mentioned previously, it will do some things (movsx), but apparently it

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-06 Thread Tom Ehlert
I don't think wcc.exe was ever meant to output 32-bit code. Granted, as mentioned previously, it will do some things (movsx), but apparently it doesn't use the extended 32-bit registers. That's the most disappointing part. As expensive as Watcom was, I was expecting it do this kind of

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-06 Thread Tom Ehlert
Badly written ifdef in memdisk.asm. Fixed such that 486+ compiles. Read ( ftp://openwatcom.mirrors.pair.com/manuals/current/cguide.pdf) and sections 2.3.x 3.5. Enlightening and disappointing. There does not seem to be a way to get 32-bit instructions out of wcc as Tom had mentioned. 3.5

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-05 Thread Louis Santillan
Badly written ifdef in memdisk.asm. Fixed such that 486+ compiles. Read ( ftp://openwatcom.mirrors.pair.com/manuals/current/cguide.pdf) and sections 2.3.x 3.5. Enlightening and disappointing. There does not seem to be a way to get 32-bit instructions out of wcc as Tom had mentioned. 3.5

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: Badly written ifdef in memdisk.asm. Fixed such that 486+ compiles. Read (ftp://openwatcom.mirrors.pair.com/manuals/current/cguide.pdf) and sections 2.3.x 3.5. Enlightening and disappointing. There does not seem

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-05 Thread Louis Santillan
See inline comments. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: Badly written ifdef in memdisk.asm. Fixed such that 486+ compiles. Read

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-04 Thread Louis Santillan
Alright, here we go. https://sites.google.com/site/lpsantil/Home/386DIS.ZIP https://sites.google.com/site/lpsantil/Home/686DIS.ZIP https://sites.google.com/site/lpsantil/Home/PATCHES.ZIP https://sites.google.com/site/lpsantil/Home/kernels.zip The *DIS files are a zip of kernel\*.lst after doing

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-04 Thread Tom Ehlert
Hallo Herr Louis Santillan, https://sites.google.com/site/lpsantil/Home/386DIS.ZIP https://sites.google.com/site/lpsantil/Home/686DIS.ZIP https://sites.google.com/site/lpsantil/Home/PATCHES.ZIP https://sites.google.com/site/lpsantil/Home/kernels.zip the differenz is an empty memdisk.lst

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-03 Thread Louis Santillan
I agree with you. But, for somethings, I can hope that the kernel being compiled with the understanding with dual integer pipelines (586) and 10 stage pipelines instead of 5 (686 vs. 586) could have some performance benefits at least for integer operations. -L On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:50 PM,

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-03 Thread Eric Auer
Hoi Louis, please explain the hack / patch: Is the only thing that you changed that the kernel is compiled for those CPUs? Are there actually any differences between them? I can imagine that OpenWatcom makes 186 and 286 the same and everything above 386 the same. Unless the kernel would contain

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: please explain the hack / patch: Is the only thing that you changed that the kernel is compiled for those CPUs? Are there actually any differences between them? I can imagine that OpenWatcom makes 186 and 286 the same

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-03 Thread Alain Mouette
There is one thint that I am aware of, and I use in my OpenWatcom programs: In a 586 execution will be faster if the instructions are rearanged, but still using only 386 instructions... Alain Em 03-05-2013 03:48, Eric Auer escreveu: Hoi Louis, please explain the hack / patch: Is the only

[Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-02 Thread Louis Santillan
I hacked the 2041 kernel batch and make files included on the FD 1.1 iso to allow the kernel to be built by OpenWatcom as 8086, 186, 286, 386, 486, 586, or 686. The resulting 686 kernel boots fine in VirtualBox 4.2.12 in OSX 10.8.3 on my 2012 Mac Book Air 13 4GB. The resulting kernel is a few

Re: [Freedos-user] Any interest in 486, 586, 686 kernels?

2013-05-02 Thread Chris Evans
Just because you select pentium level ode on the compiler doesn't necessary mean that the source code will use 586 opcode Afaik On Thursday, May 2, 2013, Louis Santillan wrote: I hacked the 2041 kernel batch and make files included on the FD 1.1 iso to allow the kernel to be built by