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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > I am running vDOS on Linux Mint 18 through WINE, haven't noticed any > problems yet, but since it is no longer open source ... Hmmm. I haven't tried running vDOS or anything else under Wine. I have no need to. I dual

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I am running vDOS on Linux Mint 18 through WINE, haven't noticed any problems yet, but since it is no longer open source ... On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:42 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > > That would be

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On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > That would be awesome! > > It seems that this would be an alternative to vDOS? > https://www.vdos.info/ > https://sourceforge.net/projects/vdos/ Why would you need it? vDOS is a fork of DOSBox specifically intended to run

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On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:37 PM, wrote: > I don't think DOSBox requires a virtual hard disk image at all. You can in fact load one, but it won't help with FreeDOS. There's an option in DOSBox to mount a CDROM as a drive. But DOSBox still provides the DOS kernel.

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Yeah, I don't think anyone in the FreeDOS project has ever aimed for it to be a replacement to Windows/Mac/Linux. That's like comparing a wheelbarrow to an SUV. FreeDOS is a niche OS for a niche market, but it's a very good one at that. Corbin On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:36

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Hi, On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:47 PM, wrote: > > BTW, I fear that VirtualBox does not have guest additions, AFAIK, you're correct, it does not support DOS. The FD wiki suggests to use FTPSRV instead: http://freedos.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/VirtualBox_-_Chapter_6

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Dennis, we've already had this pointless conversation several times over. I'm not sure why you keep rehashing it. On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 3:06 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > The number of people who still

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Original message from Corbin Davenport, 2016-06-21 00:38: > Oh wow, that's some memories. I remember firing up Virtual PC for Mac on my > old > iMac G4 to run some Windows software. The DOS additions were great for running > DOS games too. Yes, I also use(d) Virtual PC on the Mac. The Windows

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Oh wow, that's some memories. I remember firing up Virtual PC for Mac on my old iMac G4 to run some Windows software. The DOS additions were great for running DOS games too. Corbin On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 6:33 PM, wrote: > I just want to point out,

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I just want to point out, that the DOS Additions for Virtual PC 2004 SP1 can be downloaded free of charge: http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=3243 This will let you download "https://download.microsoft.com/download/2/5/3/253e22d9-b8a4-4219-9596-ee30c83699bf/Virtual PC

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> I believe CTMOUSE does have support for a wheel and maybe some extra > buttons, but of course there are no apps in DOS which would use > them. CTMOUSE does indeed support a (single) wheel, and there are a few programs that can use it. >> 5. Is there a DOS driver for USB joysticks? I know that

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> On Jun 20, 2016, at 3:04 PM, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: > > Why? > Every emulator or VM I know about will quickly install any operating > system from a virtual CD-ROM. So if you just assign the FreeDOS-ISO as > the virtual ATAPI-CDROM you will very easily install it to the virtual >

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Why? Every emulator or VM I know about will quickly install any operating system from a virtual CD-ROM. So if you just assign the FreeDOS-ISO as the virtual ATAPI-CDROM you will very easily install it to the virtual Hard Disk Drive, which will be either .VHD, .VHDX (Virtual PC and Hyper-V),

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>> Jim Hall wrote: >> >>> I'm building the new website. I'll update the notice to encourage new >> >>> users to install FreeDOS in a virtual machine. >> Tom Ehlert wrote: >> >> any reason why we don't provide ready to run virtual machines as .VHD >> >> images? >> [..] > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at

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Original message from Eric Auer, 2016-06-20 19:47: > Hi Herr or Frau Beitrag! > >> I wonder if it was possible to include the guest integration drivers for >> Virtual PC, VirtualBox, QEMU (are there any?), Hyper-V in a provided VHD > Eduardo Casino has written VMSMOUNT in 2011 :-) It lets you >

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That would be awesome! It seems that this would be an alternative to vDOS? https://www.vdos.info/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/vdos/ On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > Jim Hall wrote: > >>> I'm building the new website. I'll update the notice to

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Jim Hall wrote: >>> I'm building the new website. I'll update the notice to encourage new >>> users to install FreeDOS in a virtual machine. Tom Ehlert wrote: >> any reason why we don't provide ready to run virtual machines as .VHD >> images? Jim Hall wrote: >> Hmm... I don't know why we

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Hi, On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> I wonder if it was possible to include the guest integration drivers for >> Virtual PC, VirtualBox, QEMU (are there any?), Hyper-V in a provided VHD > > Eduardo Casino has written VMSMOUNT in 2011 :-) It lets you >

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Hi Herr or Frau Beitrag! > I wonder if it was possible to include the guest integration drivers for > Virtual PC, VirtualBox, QEMU (are there any?), Hyper-V in a provided VHD Eduardo Casino has written VMSMOUNT in 2011 :-) It lets you mount VMWare shared directories as a FreeDOS drive letter

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original message from Tom Ehlert, 2016-06-20 17:42: > .VHD is a fairly generic virtual *disk* format, and most virtual > machines providers should be able to read them. > > a tiny bit more specialized are the virtual machine configuration > files, but we should be able to provide multiple formats,

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>> I'm building the new website. I'll update the notice to encourage new >> users to install FreeDOS in a virtual machine. > > any reason why we don't provide ready to run virtual machines as .VHD > images? > > Tom > Hmm... I don't know why we haven't. I don't know anything about VHD >

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On Monday, June 20, 2016, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > > I'm building the new website. I'll update the notice to encourage new > > users to install FreeDOS in a virtual machine. > > any reason why we don't provide ready to run virtual machines as .VHD > images? > > Tom > > Hmm...

Re: [Freedos-user] Games - and DOS installation

There are by its very nature limitations to FreeDOS. Even I (one who imagines a parallel universe where DOS still matters) have been forced to reexamine why I should "care" about this system at all and why I continue to store floppy disks all over our apartment ; ^0 It is (as Eric said "a

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> I'm building the new website. I'll update the notice to encourage new > users to install FreeDOS in a virtual machine. any reason why we don't provide ready to run virtual machines as .VHD images? Tom -- What

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On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > In case it hasn't already been made obvious, this is a warning for > inexperienced users who (surprise!) would rather NOT wipe out their existing > OS and data if all they want to do is play around and experiment with DOS. >

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On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:11:12 -0400, dmccunney wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 6:39 AM, TJ Edmister > wrote: >> Since I boot Win2K/XP from FAT32, I also have the ability to put FD >> right >> on the C: partition and add it to my BOOT.INI

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> > On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Brandon Taylor > wrote: >> >> As much as I hate to concede, I must. I have found a critical passage on >> the FreeDOS website >> which, in my eyes, discourages further experimentation: >> >> “FreeDOS is a complete operating system.

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Hi, On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Rugxulo, some CWSDPMI nitpicking and some memory limits coming ;-) > >> So DR-DOS 7.03 forcibly needed its own (weird, hybrid, bundled VxD or >> whatever) EMM386, which had its own built-in XMS (so no separate HIMEM

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Hi, Dennis, :-) I know this may shock you, but this is a DOS mailing list. You know, people here actively want to use "DOS" binaries on DOS-compatible OSes. I'm just saying, keep that in mind below. On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:11 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Sun, Jun

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On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > There are rough directions on using the installer with DOSBox > in the FDI Readme. > > https://github.com/shidel/FDI/blob/master/README.md As it happens, I'm doing something similar. I have an Android port of

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On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 6:39 AM, TJ Edmister wrote: > Since I boot Win2K/XP from FAT32, I also have the ability to put FD right > on the C: partition and add it to my BOOT.INI as an option. This needs a > little juggling of boot sectors to accomplish though. I have to

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Hi Mister or Miss Beitrag ;-) > What about Enhanced DR-DOS by Udo Kuhnt? > http://www.drdosprojects.de/ It adds some filesystem features to the kernel, yes. Most extra software which came with DR DOS is not enhanced in that distro, often not even included, as far as I know... In general, it is

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On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 07:20:32 -0400, Eric Auer wrote: > > * Is it easy enough to make a bootable USB stick with FreeDOS with > plenty of software included which does NOT need to install to > harddisk but can be used as "live" operating system boot disk? Isn't there a

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Hello! What about Enhanced DR-DOS by Udo Kuhnt? http://www.drdosprojects.de/ And why not use a mixture of Kernel and Userland? I could imagine using either the DR-DOS kernel (which is only free for private use) or the FreeDOS kernel, and a userland made of both or even proprietary parts from

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> On Jun 18, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > (sorry about the long mail...) > >> During the discussion of version 1.2, this was my interpretation of >> how this should be handled and what was implemented when the >> user installed FreeDOS in normal

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Hi :-) Yes, FreeDOS clones DOS and that forces it to support old interfaces... > DR DOS had a multitasker. And MS DOS had limited task swapping in DOSSHELL, yes. If you ask me, it is easier to run multiple virtual DOS windows (DOSEMU, DOSBOX or even complete virtual PC) on modern PC: Those are

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On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 1:47 PM, wrote: > There's just not a lot of sympathy for old hardware anymore. Forced > obsoletion is more fierce than ever, so people are routinely asked to > upgrade (or even

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Hi, On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Brandon Taylor wrote: > > As much as I hate to concede, I must. I have found a critical passage on the FreeDOS website > which, in my eyes, discourages further experimentation: How did it discourage anybody? By giving them total

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On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 2:47 PM, wrote: > Original message from Eric Auer, 2016-06-18 19:14: >> Hi anonymous Abwesend forum member who is pessimistic about DOS ;-) >> >>> Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. >> FreeDOS no, old DOS games yes. > > No

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Hi, On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 1:47 PM, wrote: >> >>> Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. >> FreeDOS no, old DOS games yes. > > No offence, FreeDOS is of course a modern project. But DOS is an old > conpect for an operating system. But you have to be

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Hello Eric Auer! Original message from Eric Auer, 2016-06-18 19:14: > Hi anonymous Abwesend forum member who is pessimistic about DOS ;-) > >> Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. > FreeDOS no, old DOS games yes. No offence, FreeDOS is of course a modern project. But DOS is an

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Hi guys, (sorry about the long mail...) > During the discussion of version 1.2, this was my interpretation of > how this should be handled and what was implemented when the > user installed FreeDOS in normal mode. Having a failed install (by > not booting into FreeDOS) was unacceptable

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Hi anonymous Abwesend forum member who is pessimistic about DOS ;-) > Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. FreeDOS no, old DOS games yes. > FreeDOS on the other hand is a very old operating system concept. Old concept yes, old operating system no. This means: DOS has no multi

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I'm curious; do you have a removable hard drive? If you do you might do it the way I do. I replace the hard drive with CF flash chips. Each chip has a different OS. I can run anything from dos to win 7 by just replacing the chip. Your computer is probably too new for this to work. Works well on

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Running FreeDOS on real hardware can be challenging. If you only want to play Lure of the Temptress, on a mordern computer you have two options: * DOSBox * ScummVM I would recommend to use ScummVM for playing old (and by ScummVM supported) click-and-point adventures. It integrates very well

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> On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:20 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > […] > I think this was part of the FreeDOS 1.2 discussion before, but > how about detection whether a harddisk is "totally" empty before > showing the question how to install? I agree that for people who > made a totally empty

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Hi guys, > “FreeDOS is a complete operating system. If you choose to install > this on your computer, you may overwrite the operating system you > have now (for example, Windows.) If this is not what you intend, > please stop now.” That leads to the IMPORTANT questions: * Is it easy enough to

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Brandon, >“FreeDOS is a complete operating system. If you choose to install this on your >computer, you may overwrite the operating system you have now (for example, >Windows.) If this is not what you intend, please stop now. Notice the word "may" . That FreeDOS *may* overwrite the current

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As much as I hate to concede, I must. I have found a critical passage on the FreeDOS website which, in my eyes, discourages further experimentation: “FreeDOS is a complete operating system. If you choose to install this on your computer, you may overwrite the operating system you have now (for

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Hi, On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Brandon Taylor wrote: > > And Eric -- I'm sorry for sounding like a total newbie, but how am I > supposed to create a bootable USB drive with a "full" version of > FreeDOS? I'm looking at the files from SourceForge and I can't make

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Hi, On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > However, your listing seems to be incomplete - > no kernel or command.com are shown, but obviously you > must have them, otherwise you could not have made the listing :-) Just a hunch, but presumably they are "hidden"

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On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Brandon Taylor wrote: > Dennis -- > > As much as I hate to disillusion your apparent preference for DOSBox, > such promotion is not really the purpose of this mailing list or of our > current discussion. I am certainly aware of DOSBox

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Dennis -- As much as I hate to disillusion your apparent preference for DOSBox, such promotion is not really the purpose of this mailing list or of our current discussion. I am certainly aware of DOSBox and have played Lure Of The Temptress without any problems in DOSBox, but my goal in this

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Hi! As Rufus only gives you the minimal files to boot DOS at all, you should probably download some additional drivers to play your game. In particular, try HIMEM. However, your listing seems to be incomplete - no kernel or command.com are shown, but obviously you must have them, otherwise you

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On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Brandon Taylor wrote: > Here is the directory listing of the FreeDOS environment created by Rufus, > as well as the contents of the AUTOEXEC.BAT file it generates. There is no > CONFIG.SYS file. Just enough to boot DOS, and configure

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Here is the directory listing of the FreeDOS environment created by Rufus, as well as the contents of the AUTOEXEC.BAT file it generates. There is no CONFIG.SYS file. Brandon Taylor Sent from Mail for Windows 10 --Directory Listing-- Volume in drive H

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On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Brandon Taylor wrote: > Well, now, this is very odd indeed. The copy of FreeDOS that I got with > Rufus apparently does not come with a MEM command. Possibly it’s an old > version, or a stripped-down version, or just broken? Anyway,

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Well, now, this is very odd indeed. The copy of FreeDOS that I got with Rufus apparently does not come with a MEM command. Possibly it’s an old version, or a stripped-down version, or just broken? Anyway, I’ll try downloading FreeDOS from SourceForge and see what happens next. Brandon Taylor

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On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Brandon Taylor wrote: > I just acquired FreeDOS via Rufus, a program that lets me create bootable > USB drives. I’m trying to play some DOS games, such as “Lure Of The > Temptress,” but the game won’t run – it says “Not enough memory to

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On 6/17/2016 5:12 PM, Brandon Taylor wrote: I just acquired FreeDOS via Rufus, a program that lets me create bootable USB drives. I’m trying to play some DOS games, such as “Lure Of The Temptress,” but the game won’t run – it says “Not enough memory to run the game.” As I have not had a lot

[Freedos-user] Games

I just acquired FreeDOS via Rufus, a program that lets me create bootable USB drives. I’m trying to play some DOS games, such as “Lure Of The Temptress,” but the game won’t run – it says “Not enough memory to run the game.” As I have not had a lot of experience with the DOS family of operating

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Am Sonntag, 7. September 2008 schrieb Travis Siegel: I'm personally of the opinion that if the company no longer sells, supports, or in the case of most companies, actively discourages the use of said program, then that program should fall into public domain, and no longer be liable for

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Am Sonntag, 7. September 2008 schrieb Travis Siegel: since there's caldera's opendos,   pts dos 2000, and others that are already opensource PTS DOS 2000 is open-source? Where? I can only find http://www.paragon-software.com/dos/index.htm and

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On Sep 21, 2008, at 3:11 AM, Der kleine Beitrag eines Computeranwenders (Users) wrote: Am Sonntag, 7. September 2008 schrieb Travis Siegel: since there's caldera's opendos, pts dos 2000, and others that are already opensource PTS DOS 2000 is open-source? Where? I can only find

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Mateusz Viste schrieb: Frankly, I'd like to see Microsoft forced to open source it's abandoned operating systems. If Microsoft can do something totally different like Vista, there's no excuse for keeping something ancient like MS-DOS 7.0 closed. Well... I'm not sure we would really need

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I agree that abandon programs such as win 3.x and msdos should be opensourced, but I'd settle for uninforcable copyrights. I'm personally of the opinion that if the company no longer sells, supports, or in the case of most companies, actively discourages the use of said program, then that

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On Sep 7, 2008, at 3:32 AM, Michael Reichenbach wrote: Mateusz Viste schrieb: Frankly, I'd like to see Microsoft forced to open source it's abandoned operating systems. If Microsoft can do something totally different like Vista, there's no excuse for keeping something ancient like

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Travis Siegel schrieb: I agree that abandon programs such as win 3.x and msdos should be opensourced, but I'd settle for uninforcable copyrights. I'm personally of the opinion that if the company no longer sells, supports, or in the case of most companies, actively discourages the

[Freedos-user] Games report...

Populous II won't install under Freedos, but it will run. Wolfenstein 3D will install, but it's not playable. Same for blake stone aliens of gold. Underworld works and installs, except I can't get speech to work. Chuck Yeager's air combat doesn't work. Ultima VII doesn't work, don't know why,

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robinson-west user schrieb: ... games not working ... Interesting report. You want to say these games are working with MS-DOS but not with FreeDOS? You may post the configuration (config/autoexec) for MS-DOS and also for FreeDOS. Maybe it can be improved. I wish the ReactOS project hadn't