Re: EAP MSK: how is it transported between server and authenticator

2008-10-10 Thread Richard Chan
Simul-posting - tks! - I think that answers my question on what goes on in real deployments today. I have a couple of quibbles though: "You don't give the MSK to the NAS, that would defeat the entire point - MSK is private between the radius server and EAP client, and is used to derive further ke

Re: EAP MSK: how is it transported between server and authenticator

2008-10-10 Thread Richard Chan
Let me rephrase my question in another way (hopefully clearer): NAS acting as EAP pass-thru' device USER -- NAS --- FREERADIUS +++EAP+==EAP over RADIUS== () EAP over RADIUS uses EAP-Message attribute. After EAP completes we hav

Re: EAP MSK: how is it transported between server and authenticator

2008-10-10 Thread Richard Chan
> > EAP-Message would be the obvious candidate. > > > I don't think this can be correct: EAP-Message is used between NAS and FreeRadius to encapsulate the EAP protocol between client and server. The NAS couldn't tell that a particular EAP-Message should terminate at itself in order to extract an

Re: EAP MSK: how is it transported between server and authenticator

2008-10-10 Thread Richard Chan
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Alan DeKok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Richard Chan wrote: > > After an EAP authentication which supports key derivation (MSK) > > how does freeradius transport the MSK to an NAS(authenticator)? I.e., > > what kind of attribute is us

EAP MSK: how is it transported between server and authenticator

2008-10-09 Thread Richard Chan
Hi all, After an EAP authentication which supports key derivation (MSK) how does freeradius transport the MSK to an NAS(authenticator)? I.e., what kind of attribute is used? (I am assuming that the EAP Server (freeradius) is a separate entity to the NAS; NAS talks to freeradius using RADIUS and ac