Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Thomas Glanzmann
Hello Sergii, Is it possible to use OTP with ms-chap authorization? no, it is _not_. Cheers, Thomas - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
This is so frustrating :( How it can be possible to do strong security using reliable passwords and to have no encryption in the same time. 2013/5/16 Thomas Glanzmann tho...@glanzmann.de Hello Sergii, Is it possible to use OTP with ms-chap authorization? no, it is _not_. Cheers,

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Alan DeKok
Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: This is so frustrating :( How it can be possible to do strong security using reliable passwords and to have no encryption in the same time. I think you misunderstand the issues. OTP passwords were created so that it doesn't *require* that the password be

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 16/05/13 13:44, Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: This is so frustrating :( How it can be possible to do strong security using reliable passwords and to have no encryption in the same time. Because the protocols are old, and badly designed, but are widely deployed because the vendor (Microsoft)

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
2013/5/16 Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: This is so frustrating :( How it can be possible to do strong security using reliable passwords and to have no encryption in the same time. I think you misunderstand the issues. OTP passwords were created so

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
I want to change my security strategy. It would be better to user two step verification by google. There is google-authenticator (http://code.google.com/p/google-authenticator/) but it checks users in local database /etc/passwd and so on. How should I synchronize my unix box with corporate google

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Alan DeKok
Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: But only ms-chap supports data encryption. I want to use OTP and MPPE simulteniosly. But MPPE without ms-chap cann`t exist. Am I right? Yes. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 16/05/13 14:27, Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: 2013/5/16 Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com mailto:al...@deployingradius.com Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: This is so frustrating :( How it can be possible to do strong security using reliable passwords and to have no

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
On 16 May 2013, at 09:27, Sergii Bieliaievskyi s.bieliaievs...@sethq.com wrote: 2013/5/16 Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: This is so frustrating :( How it can be possible to do strong security using reliable passwords and to have no encryption in the

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Alan DeKok
Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: I want to change my security strategy. I think you're taking the wrong approach. You don't get security by using a bunch of security software. You get security by understanding the risks, and working to minimize them. It would be better to user two step

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
2013/5/16 Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: But only ms-chap supports data encryption. I want to use OTP and MPPE simulteniosly. But MPPE without ms-chap cann`t exist. Am I right? Yes. So OTP is useless I donn`t need system with strong password and

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
2013/5/16 Arran Cudbard-Bell a.cudba...@freeradius.org What are you actually trying to use this with? 802.1X/WPA2-Enterprise or for VPN authentication. VPN authentication. And it should be multiplatform VPN. PPTP is supported by almost every vendors. I can establish PPTP connection from

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
2013/5/16 Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk No. MPPE requires encryption keys. These can be generated by whatever auth method. If you use plain MSCHAP, MSCHAP generates them. Can you provide more information how can i do that? Or where can i read about that? Thnx. --

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Jon Spriggs
PPTP is broken [1]. OpenVPN (for which there are clients for Android, iPhone, MacOS, Linux, Windows) is not. OpenVPN will use TLS certificates as well as other centrally managed authentication based systems (e.g. Radius, MOTP, maybe Google Authenticator?) to authenticate and authorize. There are

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 16/05/13 15:45, Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: 2013/5/16 Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk mailto:p.may...@imperial.ac.uk No. MPPE requires encryption keys. These can be generated by whatever auth method. If you use plain MSCHAP, MSCHAP generates them. Can you provide

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-16 Thread Nick Owen
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.ukwrote: On 16/05/13 15:45, Sergii Bieliaievskyi wrote: 2013/5/16 Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk mailto:p.may...@imperial.ac.**uk p.may...@imperial.ac.uk No. MPPE requires encryption keys. These can be

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-15 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
Is it possible to use OTP with ms-chap authorization? Because any other methods don`t support encryption for example MPPE. With PAP OTP works fine but with ms-chap cann`t authenticate. 2013/5/14 Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs MOTP-AS uses plain-text credentials right now, but I'm still integrating

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
As I sad before I am sure that smsotp_socket exists and has appropiate permission. So smsotpd is running. There are 2 different variant of running smsotpd. 1) smsotpd.pl 2) binary file. I made some efforts to compile them under FreeBSD. Any other guessing? May be somebody can advise more systems

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Sergii Bieliaievskyi s.bieliaievs...@sethq.com wrote: As I sad before I am sure that smsotp_socket exists and has appropiate permission. So smsotpd is running. There are 2 different variant of running smsotpd. 1) smsotpd.pl 2) binary file. I made some

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
:) I am using FreeBSD distro. People! Help me please. I will take into consideration any suggestion concern OTP, any open source project, just anything. 2013/5/14 Fajar A. Nugraha l...@fajar.net On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Sergii Bieliaievskyi s.bieliaievs...@sethq.com wrote: As

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Sergii Bieliaievskyi s.bieliaievs...@sethq.com wrote: :) I am using FreeBSD distro. Ouch, wonder how I could missed that :P People! Help me please. I will take into consideration any suggestion concern OTP, any open source project, just anything.

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Schwartzkopff
Am Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013, 09:53:30 schrieb Sergii Bieliaievskyi: :) I am using FreeBSD distro. People! Help me please. I will take into consideration any suggestion concern OTP, any open source project, just anything. I tried motp. Works nice. You can install the otp generator on your

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
I am reading about MOTP and realy hope to implement its in my network. Could I count on your help if i will have a difficulties? Thanks in advance 2013/5/14 Michael Schwartzkopff m...@sys4.de ** Am Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013, 09:53:30 schrieb Sergii Bieliaievskyi: :) I am using FreeBSD

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Jon Spriggs
I'm the current project lead for the MOTP-AS project [1], so I'm happy to help with anything relating to that project (off this list, unless it's directly FR related) :) [1] https://github.com/MOTP-AS/MOTP-AS -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs On 14 May 2013 08:26, Sergii Bieliaievskyi

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
I am so sorry. May be i should take a look on MOTP-AS more deeply 2013/5/14 Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs I'm the current project lead for the MOTP-AS project [1], so I'm happy to help with anything relating to that project (off this list, unless it's directly FR related) :) [1]

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Thomas Glanzmann
Hello Sergii, don't use the C daemon it has to many moving parts. I later wrote a perl module which is easy to use. See: http://thomas.glanzmann.de/smsotpd.2012-10-05.tar.bz2 Follow the instructions in smsotpd.2012-10-05/rlm_perl/README If you have any further questions, let me know, but this

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
2013/5/14 Michael Schwartzkopff m...@sys4.de ** I tried motp. Works nice. You can install the otp generator on your smartphone. See: http://sys4.de/en/blog/2013/03/16/otp-freeradius/ What type of authorization do you use(PAP CHAP MS-CHAP) for OTP? -- --

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Schwartzkopff
Am Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013, 10:26:17 schrieb Sergii Bieliaievskyi: I am reading about MOTP and realy hope to implement its in my network. Could I count on your help if i will have a difficulties? Of course. That is what the mailing list exists for. On the other hand I earn my money with

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Jon Spriggs
MOTP-AS uses plain-text credentials right now, but I'm still integrating myself properly into the project, and I've not really experimented with any other modes. -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs On 14 May 2013 15:49, Sergii Bieliaievskyi s.bieliaievs...@sethq.comwrote: 2013/5/14 Michael

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-14 Thread Cornelius Kölbel
Hi Sergii, if one day you not only would want to use motp but also other token types like HOTP, TOTP, SMS or OCRA tokens, you might want to take a look at LinOTP (http://linotp.org), which also integrates well with FreeRADIUS. OK, to be honest we try to make our living selling licenses and

Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-13 Thread Sergii Bieliaievskyi
Hello. I am new here. And my first message concerns One-Time password authentication. I have a problem with installing rlm_smsotp + http://wiki.freeradius.org/modules/Rlm_smsotp. I am always getting an error /var/run/smsotp_socket No such file or directory. I am sure that smsotp_socket exists and

Re: Any One-Time password system.

2013-05-13 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Sergii Bieliaievskyi s.bieliaievs...@sethq.com wrote: Hello. I am new here. And my first message concerns One-Time password authentication. I have a problem with installing rlm_smsotp + http://wiki.freeradius.org/modules/Rlm_smsotp. I am always getting an