Re: PAP and clear text

2005-09-19 Thread Chuck Slate
Thanks to all whom replied for your insight and direction. Regards, Chuck On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 20:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You must have missed the information in RFC 2865 (RADIUS), which is also a Fine Manual. The PAP password is XOR'd with the MD5 hash of

PAP and clear text

2005-09-16 Thread Chuck Slate
Hi All. I have a few freeRADIUS newbie questions for you. I have always read and been told that PAP is insecure because it transmits passwords in clear text. However, If I sniff the communication between my NAS and server when PAP is used, the password is indeed obfuscated. It appears to be

Re: PAP and clear text

2005-09-16 Thread Alan DeKok
Chuck Slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always read and been told that PAP is insecure because it transmits passwords in clear text. However, If I sniff the communication between my NAS and server when PAP is used, the password is indeed obfuscated. It appears to be hashed. Yes. The

Re: PAP and clear text

2005-09-16 Thread Michael Lecuyer
You must have missed the information in RFC 2865 (RADIUS), which is also a Fine Manual. The PAP password is XOR'd with the MD5 hash of the shared secret and the authenticator. You've been reading about the protocol prior to the RADIUS client's involvment. The same thing applies to CHAP, just

Re: PAP and clear text

2005-09-16 Thread Stefan . Neis
Hi, You must have missed the information in RFC 2865 (RADIUS), which is also a Fine Manual. The PAP password is XOR'd with the MD5 hash of the shared secret and the authenticator. Yes, that's a bit clearer than saying the password is hashed, since it also shows that the process is