Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-03 Thread Alan DeKok
Jim Rice wrote: The MikroTik routers can be configured to send a variety of MAC address formats, the default is XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX Which isn't the format recommended by the RFCs sigh. It can also be set to include the same MAC address in the Password field, instead of NULL, but I do not

Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-03 Thread Brian Candler
On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 02:00:52PM -0600, Gary Gatten wrote: On shared medium, I don't *think* dupe macs will cause much problem, unless maybe a congestion algorithm tweaks traffic to/from that mac. I'm not an expert in that area, just speaking from experience. Layer 1 --- I have little

Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-02 Thread Alan DeKok
Jim Rice wrote: Still a newbie, but getting there... (Alan, do you ever sleep?) In a word: no. I have been asked to implement MAC authentication for a local service provider with a Canopy radio network and MikroTik routers. No, really. I was able to test this and received

Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-02 Thread Jim Rice
Thanks, Alan. The MikroTik routers can be configured to send a variety of MAC address formats, the default is XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX It can also be set to include the same MAC address in the Password field, instead of NULL, but I do not see any added benefit to that. but had to set Auth-Type :=

RE: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-02 Thread Gary Gatten
=waddell@lists.freeradius.org] On Behalf Of Jim Rice Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:15 PM To: FreeRadius users mailing list Subject: Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea? Thanks, Alan. The MikroTik routers can be configured to send a variety of MAC address formats, the default

Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-02 Thread Alan Buxey
Hi, Do I need to be concerned with MAC spoofing? of course. theres also the issue that the link-layer is completely open and unencrypted to any eavedropping/dodgy activity alan - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-02 Thread schilling
We implemented MAC authentication with netreg at http://netreg.sourceforge.net. We used DHCP/DNS/HTTP piece from netreg. It's essence is DHCP/DHS/HTTP on one server. Basically there will be a vlan we called sandbox with ip helper-address pointing to sandbox.foo.edu. The DHCP is configured to

Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-02 Thread Brian Candler
On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 11:15:13AM -0800, Jim Rice wrote: Do I need to be concerned with MAC spoofing? It's easy to do, so it will probably happen; this risk is weighed against providing a service which is easy for your customers to use. What happens if two people try to use the same MAC

Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-02 Thread Gary Gatten
, February 02, 2011 01:53 PM To: FreeRadius users mailing list freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org Subject: Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea? On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 11:15:13AM -0800, Jim Rice wrote: Do I need to be concerned with MAC spoofing? It's easy to do, so it will probably happen

Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-02 Thread Jim Rice
: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea? To: FreeRadius users mailing list freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 11:32 AM We implemented MAC authentication with netreg at http://netreg.sourceforge.net. We used DHCP/DNS/HTTP piece from netreg. It's essence is DHCP/DHS

Re: MAC Authentication - Bad Idea?

2011-02-02 Thread Brett Littrell
I think it depends on the OS, if a OS is trusting and accepts everything up the stack from Layer 2 if the MAC address matches it could start to get confused and cause all sorts of issues. If the device keeps some kind of state table for connections and rejects all others there may not be