Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Alan DeKok
Scott Sears wrote: I cannot get all the pieces working together. Laptop-AP-Freeradius-Kerberos. It's impossible. Kerberos requires a clear-text password to authenticate (or various Kerberos crypto tokens derived from the password). PEAP supplies an MS-CHAP hash, not a clear-text

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
On 8/5/09 20:00, Alan DeKok wrote: Scott Sears wrote: I cannot get all the pieces working together. Laptop-AP-Freeradius-Kerberos. It's impossible. Kerberos requires a clear-text password to authenticate (or various Kerberos crypto tokens derived from the password). PEAP supplies

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Scott Sears
Alan, Thank you for your quick and kind response. On May 8, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Alan DeKok wrote: Scott Sears wrote: I cannot get all the pieces working together. Laptop-AP-Freeradius-Kerberos. It's impossible. Here is the thread which made me think it was possible, and led me to this

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Ivan Kalik
Hello, I am trying to implement WPA Enterprise / 802.1X, Freeradius and Kerberos. The client is a Linksys running DD-WRT. The Supplicant is Mac OS Laptop. Both are most recent versions of OS. I can exececute radtest on localhost and authenticate through Freeradius to my KDC. I can get my

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Ivan Kalik
Is it *in any way* possible to securely authorize mobile supplicants through a wireless AP to a Freeradius server using a KDC for authentication? Perhaps its doable, but I'm just not on the right track. EAP-TTLS/PAP. Native Windows supplicant can't do this but SecureW2 does. Ivan Kalik

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Scott Sears
That's did it! I just needed to change settings on the supplicant. My freeradius config was OK. Thank you SO much. On May 8, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Ivan Kalik wrote: Is it *in any way* possible to securely authorize mobile supplicants through a wireless AP to a Freeradius server using a KDC for

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
On 8/5/09 20:45, Ivan Kalik wrote: Is it *in any way* possible to securely authorize mobile supplicants through a wireless AP to a Freeradius server using a KDC for authentication? Perhaps its doable, but I'm just not on the right track. EAP-TTLS/PAP. Native Windows supplicant can't do this

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Alan DeKok
Scott Sears wrote: Here is the thread which made me think it was possible, and led me to this list. Apparently I've made a mistake, but perhaps you can explain the difference between my goal and the one described in the thread? The difference is you are NOT using the EAP method recommended

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Alan DeKok
Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote: If you use SecureW2, you can configure Windows to do TTLS+PAP. That will supply a clear-text password in the inner tunnel, which will allow kerberos to work. Really? I would have thought the exchange would be far more complex than just PAP? Surely you can't

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Scott Sears
Alan, Thank you so much for your time. I truly did read the thread - many times (that's why my config worked perfectly once I changed the setting on the supplicant) and it was and is clear that you are an expert on the subject that's why I posted to this list. Those of us who are new

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
On 8/5/09 21:11, Alan DeKok wrote: Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote: If you use SecureW2, you can configure Windows to do TTLS+PAP. That will supply a clear-text password in the inner tunnel, which will allow kerberos to work. Really? I would have thought the exchange would be far more complex

Re: WPA Enterprise, 802.1X, Freeradius, EAP Kerberos

2009-05-08 Thread John Dennis
Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote: On 8/5/09 21:11, Alan DeKok wrote: You can't. But you can use a KDC as an authentication oracle. RADIUS: Is this PAP password OK? KDC: yes/no. Does it request a TGT and then see if it can decrypt it ? Yes, that's the basic process, it also validates the KDC.